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Pet Stealing / Pet Availability / Pet Timers / Wizard Play In General

I think what the vast majority of people would agree on, is wizz needs work.

as much as some people don't want to let them go, getting rid of op pets is stage one (solves the stealing issue,)

stage two is balancing with new buffed spells to re add the attraction to the class, multi strike and thunder storm get my vote, make Lightning damage great again.

I will add, to all the wizzies out there complaining, how many of you have made a kit with light damage runes and tested it out? 75% I’m talking here, do it! You will be amazed!
I agree with you, infact I bought up that exact argument earlier in this post regards the inbalance in rankings & I have also abandoned my wizz.

However you are here less than a year, this server is 12 years old, in 12 years wizz levelled silly fast by those who knew how to play them compared to war/tao. That dynamic seems to have changed in the past 18/24months to mean only wizz who spend exorbitant money or play 24/7 have that advantage past lvl 190ish.

I myself didnt get bdp pets until i returned here 4months ago, I levelled without pets right up to szt/bc, but after these caves its just not happening pets are required, I gave it a good go 3 months trying, my dislike of pets is deeply routed & well documented, i hate that i cannot afk, i hate how they die so easy I despise retameing and the anxiety of theft, if I go afk because i get company knock at the door and forget about this game, as you do when i come back pets are dead, fuck that, but most of all I hate that playing the class is completly reliant on electricshock a fkin lvl 13 spell....


While I agree to all of this, my gripe is this.

It not just single target damage that would need buffed for wiz, their hp would need to be doubled minimum.

Damage isn't the problem in my opinion, it's survivability.

Yes hp runes fix that, but the lack of drops on hp runes hinders the class so badly most wizzies quit playing. On top of that we have to choose between hp or mc. No other class needs to make that choice.
 
The gamemaster won't change anything so this whole thread is all a giant waste of time, it hasn't happened before so it won't happen now. At least the feelings are known, and we have an explanation for the drop off rate.
 
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@Scorpian most definitely does listen bud.

But its not a easy fix sadly.

It takes time and thought, and balance in a game with pvp is not an easy thing to do.

Changes can't be made willy nilly or at a whim. They need to be thought out thoroughly.

Now is this topic currently on his radar? No idea, but I've been moaning on this subject since june..

The easiest fix I can think of is to institute a pet taming npc menagerie type deal where you can buy pets to tame for demon souls or gg.

Is it fair to have to pay for pets while other classes don't? No, but its a quick easy fix.
 
Every class in game is balanced and every kit exists for a reason. The game is about exploring and figuring out how to maximize your status. I don’t need sit here and explain how to do this….its simply go out there and try everything out or read every post on this thread and you will sum up 10% of game play.

If you know how to play your class you will be unstoppable.
 
You say this, but numbers don't lie bud.

Go look at the ranking and look at all the wizzies who all quit at the same levels.

It's due to no access to pets that are usable in the caves they need them. I said the numbers back on post #57.
 
Well there are pets, it's the ease and how commonplace stealing them is which is everyone's main gripe I think. You have 5 pets which are essentially 1 hit kills by most players higher level than you. Would a Tao be happy if there fully levelled pets were susceptible to a 1 hit kill from another player? And people were actively going out of there way to do it? Probably not.
 
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I'll Tell you what the problem is, people have come to the game in last 6-12 months and levelled to 190+ and expect to do everything that the people with 5+ years of playing and kits can do. maybe you need to build a kit up and focus on upgrades before you level up so quick.

And pets just hide this fact but I still think you shouldn't be able to steal as its not nice.
 
I have good kit. No one stoles my pets, server ate them, can't get more so made a tao.

Those are the facts, and I know I'm not alone in this.

There needs to be more tamable mobs around 190.
 
It's a never ending story.... 4 x 190 players (we are all in a guild ) can easy kill 4x dragons and take 5x tongs from RDD ( and they are almost same as BPD pets) . 4x 190 players can reach 4f in BPD and take 5x pets ( I have done it a few times ) . That's 2x free hunts a week to get pets . Since vault has been in game almost everybody got max demon souls so you can afford to do extra runs for 200 souls.
 
It's a never ending story.... 4 x 190 players (we are all in a guild ) can easy kill 4x dragons and take 5x tongs from RDD ( and they are almost same as BPD pets) . 4x 190 players can reach 4f in BPD and take 5x pets ( I have done it a few times ) . That's 2x free hunts a week to get pets . Since vault has been in game almost everybody got max demon souls so you can afford to do extra runs for 200 souls.
Our guild has been to 4th many times since I got my tao to 173, it's not hard to get to 4th bdp.

The problem is each time we go there are zero super clawed and maybe 2 or 3 wasps.

People go to the 4th just for pets and boss and never clear it, and our players have time to do it once, they aren't going to sit there 4 hours each time just to get our wizards pets.

The reality is simple.

There needs to be more usable tamable mobs around 190.

There flat out isn't any. Tongs and wedgemoths do not survive planes or st. That leaves wizzies with only one choice for pets, or play another class.
 
Our guild has been to 4th many times since I got my tao to 173, it's not hard to get to 4th bdp.

The problem is each time we go there are zero super clawed and maybe 2 or 3 wasps.

People go to the 4th just for pets and boss and never clear it, and our players have time to do it once, they aren't going to sit there 4 hours each time just to get our wizards pets.

The reality is simple.

There needs to be more usable tamable mobs around 190.

There flat out isn't any. Tongs and wedgemoths do not survive planes or st. That leaves wizzies with only one choice for pets, or play another class.
Tongs serpents and moths from RDD are almost the same as BPD pets . And you get them after u kill the 4th dragon in RDD ( in case you didn't know)
 
I think that one thing everybody agrees on is that pets shouldn't be as easy to steal as they are, if at all. It can really destroy any plans or ambitions you had to get yourself in a position to start being more independent, to start making GG and upgrading gear. My plan was to do just that, but it was crushed within an hour, TWICE. People may be right that it takes years to get gear and that's fine, I'm all for the grind. I enjoy grinding! I grinded may ass off to get where I was, I want to grind, I want to do bosses!! But, when people constantly steal your greatest asset, and one that you pretty much need if you don't have the gear or a big guild for help you get the gear, you just can't justify playing alone most of the time, because it's no fun at all for reasons stated previously. And I've had plenty of tongs stolen by the way, I like tongs, but bug cave is pillaged to death, if someone steals a tong I have to spend over an hour clearing the cave out for a respawn and I only have so many hours a day to play I work full time and have responsibilities. It's a constant routine of finding pets, pets stolen, finding more pets yawn. You kind of just look at things and say what's the point, you hit a wall, and just stop playing, the wizzy player drop off rate really is down to just that, I'm 100% confident of that, because that's where I'm at right now, and I've spoken to many who say the same. The only thing we have is bosses to try and find gear / make GG, so we can make the step up to go to the recommended zone, to progress further - we cannot hunt in the recommended areas like prasko said without the good pets, or gear and they are all are interlinked. It's just a never ending cycle of getting nowhere and achieving nothing but pure frustration. I have never even been to RDD, I don't even know what it is or how I would access it, most of you live in a bubble where group play is commonplace, if you haven't been around for years most people simply don't have that luxury. I've never even seen 5 x RDD tongs or even 1 for that matter in my entire career, so they can't be that good or sought after. I have never seen one top player in my life running round with a tong or 'RDD Tong' that says it all, again.

It doesn't have to be a drastic change. How about at a bare minimum a 10-zap (I call them zaps) grace period so if you do leave pets unattended and they get stolen you actually have some responsibility for the loss. The issue for me is you can be killing a boss and a top player can just use a tele ring to port in right next to you (after you've spent 20 minutes random teleporting or running to the boss I should add because you cant afford a tele ring), and half the time just steal 1 with 1 hit. I used to play on peaceful mode, I don't need that shit. I'd happily just TT and take my pets with me and go somewhere else, you have the boss. They ain't after the boss though are they, they want easy access to the pets you've grinded hours to get because they know how desperate you are to get them so why should they take 4/5 hours + trying when they can just take them from you, they can hunt with their big expensive kit in the meantime right :). I sound like a broken record but does that seem fair, to anyone? Really? It just isn't, it's game destroying for a lot of players, extremely annoying and quite frankly enough to make that many people quit that it's clearly detrimental to not only to the server, but to the income of the the costs to support the server, because every wizzy that has left because of it, was worth a lot of money, I still had a fair few transactions / subscriptions in me.
 
I think that one thing everybody agrees on is that pets shouldn't be as easy to steal as they are, if at all. It can really destroy any plans or ambitions you had to get yourself in a position to start being more independent, to start making GG and upgrading gear. My plan was to do just that, but it was crushed within an hour, TWICE. People may be right that it takes years to get gear and that's fine, I'm all for the grind. I enjoy grinding! I grinded may ass off to get where I was, I want to grind, I want to do bosses!! But, when people constantly steal your greatest asset, and one that you pretty much need if you don't have the gear or a big guild for help you get the gear, you just can't justify playing alone most of the time, because it's no fun at all for reasons stated previously. And I've had plenty of tongs stolen by the way, I like tongs, but bug cave is pillaged to death, if someone steals a tong I have to spend over an hour clearing the cave out for a respawn and I only have so many hours a day to play I work full time and have responsibilities. It's a constant routine of finding pets, pets stolen, finding more pets yawn. You kind of just look at things and say what's the point, you hit a wall, and just stop playing, the wizzy player drop off rate really is down to just that, I'm 100% confident of that, because that's where I'm at right now, and I've spoken to many who say the same. The only thing we have is bosses to try and find gear / make GG, so we can make the step up to go to the recommended zone, to progress further - we cannot hunt in the recommended areas like prasko said without the good pets, or gear and they are all are interlinked. It's just a never ending cycle of getting nowhere and achieving nothing but pure frustration. I have never even been to RDD, I don't even know what it is or how I would access it, most of you live in a bubble where group play is commonplace, if you haven't been around for years most people simply don't have that luxury. I've never even seen 5 x RDD tongs or even 1 for that matter in my entire career, so they can't be that good or sought after. I have never seen one top player in my life running round with a tong or 'RDD Tong' that says it all, again.

It doesn't have to be a drastic change. How about at a bare minimum a 10-zap (I call them zaps) grace period so if you do leave pets unattended and they get stolen you actually have some responsibility for the loss. The issue for me is you can be killing a boss and a top player can just use a tele ring to port in right next to you (after you've spent 20 minutes random teleporting or running to the boss I should add because you cant afford a tele ring), and half the time just steal 1 with 1 hit. I used to play on peaceful mode, I don't need that shit. I'd happily just TT and take my pets with me and go somewhere else, you have the boss. They ain't after the boss though are they, they want easy access to the pets you've grinded hours to get because they know how desperate you are to get them so why should they take 4/5 hours + trying when they can just take them from you, they can hunt with their big expensive kit in the meantime right :). I sound like a broken record but does that seem fair, to anyone? Really? It just isn't, it's game destroying for a lot of players, extremely annoying and quite frankly enough to make that many people quit that it's clearly detrimental to not only to the server, but to the income of the the costs to support the server, because every wizzy that has left because of it, was worth a lot of money, I still had a fair few transactions / subscriptions in me.
RDD is an guild challenge like BPD but easier. You find it at the entrance to the old BDD cave In Gyiroong . You have to kill 5x dragons to finish the challenge. First 4x dragons drops you a key that unlockes the path to 5th and final dragon . On that map you fiind evil thongs ,evil snakes and evil moths and they are all similar to BPD pets. Claws and evil thongs have same AC AMC and DC only difference if I'm not mistaken claws have hp 140k-160k and thongs 120k-140k. Same goes for evilsnakes they are the equal to axes and moths to wasp.
So like I said on my previous posts people only want BPD pets because gives them a certain status and yes they are the strongest pets out there , but there are alternatives and RDD pets are one of those .
 
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Just a heads up btw.

!buying 3 super clawed 1 champ clawed

CSpaceCowboyII ign

nvm, got em.
 
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I logged on last night and was boss/hunting in 3 areas and had to tt due to a certain person following me around trying to steal pets in end o just logged off. Is this fair?
 
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