Warriors are broken and way too squishy.

[zad48231]

All it does is make us sour.even with a wiz im getting 2 hit by normal mobs in new cave. All that bollox about new spells etc gonna make it easier. That is not the case. It’s too hard. It’s not enjoyable. Just like bdp and rdd. Not enjoyable one bit. I never heard anyone say OMG I loved that rdd hunt so much it was so much fun. 99% of people after a rdd LOL HARD when u ask if they wana go back. I’ve heard people say they’d rather prick they’re eyeballs with needles than go back to rdd. No one wants to kill 20x 1.5m hp bosses for a fine grinding oil. It’s literally hanging by a thread right now. Nothing has sold in ah for two or more weeks because everyone’s quit because it’s to hard lol.

You're projecting your own personal experience and assuming everyone else's experience is the same.

You beg for things to be made harder, then they are and you beg for them to be made easier. Make your mind up.

My experience has been literally the opposite to what you state above is what "everyone" expriences. Plenty low and mid levels playing and having lots of fun. At the top of the game things do slow down a lot, but obviously that necessary otherwise you'd just end up with the top 50 all being invincible and it would be even more boring. Regards the market, I've been consistently selling bits and pieces on AH and in the last couple of weeks made about 3k gg from it. The market is a bit slower than it used to be, but claiming it's dead is nothing more than mindless sensationalism. You should get a job writing for The Daily Star.

 

[shadow]

To satisfy warriors we need a map where mobs are more spread out but each mob gives a very decent amount of exp.. 2-3 minutes lures will get u maybe 10 mobs max.. harder for taoist and wizard to mass kill but can still be done.. will just take longer

 

[zad48231]

To satisfy warriors we need a map where mobs are more spread out but each mob gives a very decent amount of exp.. 2-3 minutes lures will get u maybe 10 mobs max.. harder for taoist and wizard to mass kill but can still be done.. will just take longer

Like if EvilTongs in bug cave gave same exp as a champ mob, but without the drop obviously, and make like 30 of them spawn at a time on each floor, that kind of idea?

 

[Taunton0412]

Its not about punishing or nerfing other classes. look at top ranking list its pretty balanced between classes.

 

[DarkStyle]

Its not about punishing or nerfing other classes. look at top ranking list its pretty balanced between classes.

Maybe a balanced ranking but it’s not enjoyable to play rn. Especially not for a warrior. I ain’t spending another penny on Rev scrolls. Had enuff. Il never go rdd or bdp again either. They’re both a massive waste of time and money. Literally go there and all the wiz just disappear to get pets lol. Gonna go back to mir4 that don’t cost an arm and a leg just to play it. I can actually play that and lvl in the caves that are meant for my lvl.

 

[Aro]

Maybe a balanced ranking but it’s not enjoyable to play rn. Especially not for a warrior. I ain’t spending another penny on Rev scrolls. Had enuff. Il never go rdd or bdp again either. They’re both a massive waste of time and money. Literally go there and all the wiz just disappear to get pets lol. Gonna go back to mir4 that don’t cost an arm and a leg just to play it. I can actually play that and lvl in the caves that are meant for my lvl.

Wizz thing sounds like a guild problem, perhaps dont invite them back if they USE you like that?

if you are leaving again have fun in mir4 and see you for xmas event

 

[vexus]

Maybe a balanced ranking but it’s not enjoyable to play rn. Especially not for a warrior. I ain’t spending another penny on Rev scrolls. Had enuff. Il never go rdd or bdp again either. They’re both a massive waste of time and money. Literally go there and all the wiz just disappear to get pets lol. Gonna go back to mir4 that don’t cost an arm and a leg just to play it. I can actually play that and lvl in the caves that are meant for my lvl.

Chop chop keep it moving. Ps everything is balanced you have just maxed it all out and demanding more before it’s due.

 

[protusconp69]

I remember when a wizz had to be that level or a level above to tame a pet, also the mobs in new place are far higher level and stats are significantly increased for hitting, it’s fun there, it’s new and going to take a while to get used to, guess we need time to see how all the changes settle that have been made, Tao pets don’t tank in new area they die a lot, but that’s okay. Personally I think the new maps suit small groups rather than solo !

 

[mrstevieorder666]

Maybe a balanced ranking but it’s not enjoyable to play rn. Especially not for a warrior. I ain’t spending another penny on Rev scrolls. Had enuff. Il never go rdd or bdp again either. They’re both a massive waste of time and money. Literally go there and all the wiz just disappear to get pets lol. Gonna go back to mir4 that don’t cost an arm and a leg just to play it. I can actually play that and lvl in the caves that are meant for my lvl.

Saying it's not enjoyable is a bit of a stretch, I think that is more about your own play style and wanting too much from the solo game. I agree warriors should be a bit tougher, that goes without question. From what you have said in this thread much of it seems to be that you want to be able to solo everything - I mean, if your playstyle involves using rev scrolls from the get go then you are aiming waaay too high. Alot of your complaints come across as pretty self-focused tbh, they are not about the experience everyone has in the game, they are just you being bitter that you can't play it the way you want to play it.

No one should be able to steamroll everything in their path as it kinda defeats the purpose. It's a game, it's meant to be challenging to a degree. If you dislike the game that much then why play here? Maybe Mir4 is where you are meant to be as spending your time demanding everything changed for your own playstyle is not a good way to spend your time.

 

[DarkStyle]

Saying it's not enjoyable is a bit of a stretch, I think that is more about your own play style and wanting too much from the solo game. I agree warriors should be a bit tougher, that goes without question. From what you have said in this thread much of it seems to be that you want to be able to solo everything - I mean, if your playstyle involves using rev scrolls from the get go then you are aiming waaay too high. Alot of your complaints come across as pretty self-focused tbh, they are not about the experience everyone has in the game, they are just you being bitter that you can't play it the way you want to play it.

No one should be able to steamroll everything in their path as it kinda defeats the purpose. It's a game, it's meant to be challenging to a degree. If you dislike the game that much then why play here? Maybe Mir4 is where you are meant to be as spending your time demanding everything changed for your own playstyle is not a good way to spend your time.

I want to be able to SOLO level In new caves. That’s all. Kill the reds and blues and a lure or 4/5 mobs at a time.
That’s all.
I don’t expect to be soloing rdd and bdp nor any of the new bosses.
But I do expect to complete it with a group of 14+ lvl 180+ chars. Bdp we run out of time before the end every time.
I don’t expect to be getting 2 hit by normal mobs with 5500 dc. Red mobs one hit me with 9500 dc.
That’s wrong.
If I feel the squeeze then everyone else eventually will. Not everyone wants to group hunt ALL the time. Look at the ranking. Too 10 are All solo hunters pretty much.
Zade completely rejects whisper and all Grp/guild chats when he goes lvling and hunting solo.
it’s a mmo. Solo and group play should both be encouraged. Everything has wayyyyyy to much damage for a warrior to tank. Even in massive defence ac amc and agil kits. Hpr kits don’t work either because they all hit so hard. I’d prefer it if everything got 4x hp and 50% dmg reduction.

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I’m not demanding anything. I’m just saying look at the uc and the economy it’s pretty much dead. No one buys anything because it’s too hard and boss drops barely sustain hunts for people playing solo let alone whole groups.

 

[mrstevieorder666]

I want to be able to SOLO level In new caves. That’s all. Kill the reds and blues and a lure or 4/5 mobs at a time.
That’s all.
I don’t expect to be soloing rdd and bdp nor any of the new bosses.
But I do expect to complete it with a group of 14+ lvl 180+ chars. Bdp we run out of time before the end every time.
I don’t expect to be getting 2 hit by normal mobs with 5500 dc. Red mobs one hit me with 9500 dc.
That’s wrong.
If I feel the squeeze then everyone else eventually will. Not everyone wants to group hunt ALL the time. Look at the ranking. Too 10 are All solo hunters pretty much.
Zade completely rejects whisper and all Grp/guild chats when he goes lvling and hunting solo.
it’s a mmo. Solo and group play should both be encouraged. Everything has wayyyyyy to much damage for a warrior to tank. Even in massive defence ac amc and agil kits. Hpr kits don’t work either because they all hit so hard. I’d prefer it if everything got 4x hp and 50% dmg reduction.

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I’m not demanding anything. I’m just saying look at the uc and the economy it’s pretty much dead. No one buys anything because it’s too hard and boss drops barely sustain hunts for people playing solo let alone whole groups.

As I said, what you want seems extremely self-focused. The newest caves are designed to be hard as they are content for people who are close to or have reached the level cap, it's not meant to be easy. Why don't you try hunting with some people who are at your level? If it were changed to what you want it would be a bit pointless, and as we have discussed earlier in the thread it would be even easier for mage's to walk about turning everything to dust.

Unsure what Zade's dm status to do with anything? LMAO. Stay on topic dude.

BTW, is mir4 any good? I heard it was a pile of hot garbage.

 

[zad48231]

Unsure what Zade's dm status to do with anything? LMAO. Stay on topic dude.

I think the point he was making is that when I'm levelling I turn off all chat so I can concentrate, almost all of the exp I've gained on Zade has been solo because I simply find it a lot faster than hunting in a group

The thing is, people complain about certain aspects of the classes, but my personal experience is it's more about the quality of the group than what class is what.

On all 3 of my chars I'm confident that I can level faster solo than I can in a group of 2 or 3 people of around the same level as me. It does seem kinda weird that the game has become focused that way. I really enjoy hunting in groups when it's organised, and as you've witnessed, sometimes a group can be really effective when everyone is sharp, and sometimes a hunt can be completely ruined by 1 or 2 people not paying attention which, as you've also witnessed, triggers me massively haha.

If anything, I think it's a symptom of people expecting the game to be easy, people don't focus and just want to run around and exp just happens. It's a million times worse in a large group, and it's massively frustrating when you invest time and effort into learning the best way to get through something, then people come along and aren't even watching the screen, and get you killed, then they wonder why I go solo most of the time... rolleyes

 

[mrstevieorder666]

What I find is that I only lvl faster with a group if its somewhere that way too hard for me solo and im with a group who can kill everything very fast. The EXP is usually lower per kill than I would get solo, but the amount of kills is much higher.

I do prefer to grind away solo as its relaxing- the posts not really about just lvling though, from what I gathered anyway.

 

[protusconp69]

I want to be able to SOLO level In new caves. That’s all. Kill the reds and blues and a lure or 4/5 mobs at a time.
That’s all.
I don’t expect to be soloing rdd and bdp nor any of the new bosses.
But I do expect to complete it with a group of 14+ lvl 180+ chars. Bdp we run out of time before the end every time.
I don’t expect to be getting 2 hit by normal mobs with 5500 dc. Red mobs one hit me with 9500 dc.
That’s wrong.
If I feel the squeeze then everyone else eventually will. Not everyone wants to group hunt ALL the time. Look at the ranking. Too 10 are All solo hunters pretty much.
Zade completely rejects whisper and all Grp/guild chats when he goes lvling and hunting solo.
it’s a mmo. Solo and group play should both be encouraged. Everything has wayyyyyy to much damage for a warrior to tank. Even in massive defence ac amc and agil kits. Hpr kits don’t work either because they all hit so hard. I’d prefer it if everything got 4x hp and 50% dmg reduction.

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I’m not demanding anything. I’m just saying look at the uc and the economy it’s pretty much dead. No one buys anything because it’s too hard and boss drops barely sustain hunts for people playing solo let alone whole groups.

You can solo level there and at your level there is no reason why you can not, but, as you have pointed out, you use rt’s to find all the blues and reds, the cave is designed to stop people doing that greed thing, the more mobs you kill your eradication goes up, In turn more mobs spawn and guess what blues and reds spawn with them, so working your way through each map you will encounter loads of reds and blues, obviously this is where your going wrong as your using Rev scrolls and rt’s and complaining there is nowhere to buy more when your there !! HELLO !!!!

 

[DarkStyle]

You can solo level there and at your level there is no reason why you can not, but, as you have pointed out, you use rt’s to find all the blues and reds, the cave is designed to stop people doing that greed thing, the more mobs you kill your eradication goes up, In turn more mobs spawn and guess what blues and reds spawn with them, so working your way through each map you will encounter loads of reds and blues, obviously this is where your going wrong as your using Rev scrolls and rt’s and complaining there is nowhere to buy more when your there !! HELLO !!!!

Na man I defo cannot rt about in there killing reds and blues. They all hurt way to much. I can’t clear lures in there. One blue and one mob will kill me.

 

[zad48231]

Na man I defo cannot rt about in there killing reds and blues. They all hurt way to much. I can’t clear lures in there. One blue and one mob will kill me.

So what you're saying is that a group is required to hunt in the top level area. It's almost like GM has listened to all the complaints about the game being centred on solo hunting. What a wild concept

 

[DarkStyle]

So what you're saying is that a group is required to hunt in the top level area. It's almost like GM has listened to all the complaints about the game being centred on solo hunting. What a wild concept

No because Daniele can easily sit there all day basically afk solo clearing massive lures of blues reds and mobs.

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It’s the only place I can get exp.
Diablo
Baal
Yimogi
Rdd
Bdp
Lost ship
Arena challenge
These are all group hunting places.
Normal caves are solo hunting places.
That’s how it’s always been.
Go on keep pushing me.

 

[protusconp69]

So really there need to be more mobs that wizzies struggle against ?
It’s not that hard in the new high level cave, personally I find it hard to believe a high level warrior with good balanced kit and his archemon struggles against 1 blue and 1 mob, but if you say so then I believe you !!

 

[Alsiral]

No because Daniele can easily sit there all day basically afk solo clearing massive lures of blues reds and mobs.

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It’s the only place I can get exp.
Diablo
Baal
Yimogi
Rdd
Bdp
Lost ship
Arena challenge
These are all group hunting places.
Normal caves are solo hunting places.
That’s how it’s always been.
Go on keep pushing me.

I think people need to stop on an anti Dan quest here, this is not about Tailoring the game to his requirements but simply a request to play and enjoy top end content like the wizzies can……

Andy look @ PayPal from top 3 warriors in Oct VS last 6 weeks….

In aug / sept we asked, you delivered, only you can look at the numbers

 

[DarkStyle]

I think people need to stop on an anti Dan quest here, this is not about Tailoring the game to his requirements but simply a request to play and enjoy top end content like the wizzies can……

Andy look @ PayPal from top 3 warriors in Oct VS last 6 weeks….

In aug / sept we asked, you delivered, only you can look at the numbers

Thanks appreciate it.

Like I said, I don’t want to be soloing all the bosses. I just want to hunt the caves that I get exp in.
I can’t even solo lvl in zuma temple anymore. Somthing has definitely changed. I loved 183-187 in Zuma temple maze solo. Now I can’t clear 2/3 rooms without dieing. I have 3 yimogis with 20 lives each. I have a troll.
I can’t solo lvl and kill lures in bug cave. Yeh il be ok going 1by1 but I can’t kill lures with a blue or red in without dieing.
I can’t solo lvl in cata or new gp because all the mobs hit to hard.

This is the main problem. Warriors are too squishy and need a massive massive pve defence buff.
Even with maxed out guild shields, 300 agility, 900+ac I’m still getting 1 hit by red mobs and 2 hit by normal mobs in the gp.

These are the only places I get exp. anywhere else I get 500exp a mob.
6k a mob in zt
8k a mob in bug cave
10k a mob in catacombs.
Somthing like that on exp pot


All bosses suck for a warrior unless ur in a big group, which is also scarce these days. Because content is too hard and not rewarding enough to cover costs of hunts.