If you killed Balor with 5 blue moths from ST than I am astounded, you must have some real good kit. If you send me a video of 5 blue moths from ST killing Balor without intervention from a player - 5 blue ST moths kill Balor in a video, posted to this forum from you - than I will literally eat human poo. Honestly, I will eat human poo and I will post it here. Blue tongs are twice as better as the moths and they melt, which are the best pets outside of private caves you can get fyi, much better than these weak pathetic blue moths you seem to enjoy. I only had wasps as well by the way, I was grateful for them wasps, and that is what is considered high enough value to be stolen with how things are currently. Hulks are absolute trash they die to savage terror lord, they have 3 times as less AC than a blue tong, unless you are fortunate enough to get a super or a champ of course but guess what, people way ahead of in gear have tele rings etc and can tame them long before a casual can find them most of the time. And the problem isn't with the pet taming system it's how hard it is for someone without connections to get decent pets, and how easy it is to steal them if you are fortunate enough to get them. You only have to listen to the responses from any wizard to see that it is a problem. Nurture itself doesn't even work as described, 60 minutes as per usual not as advertised by the way, I mean this has surely been ignored too long, the spell literally doesn't work as described. And whilst we are on the subject... I wouldn't mind an old school system! Let them die when I log out, let them die when I die, let them die after 2/3 hours just make the more accessible to the average joe I wouldn't even mind the pet thievery if the pet system operated this way, so long as it was sustainable.