Pet Stealing / Pet Availability / Pet Timers / Wizard Play In General
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Gritt
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Feel for you , Need a Pet Stable pets can be stabled if they die or stolen they just return to your stable , maybe afee to stable them or a taming ranch where you can tame all tameable mobs in game and pay extra for blue or red or a quest or something for those who do not have access to RDD BDP etc to tame .....
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vexus
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I feel your frustration but to sum it all up,
There is a reason why we have 3 diff class. If all class was same then game becomes pointless. Cannot compare classes to each other as they are designed to be different.
Wiz pets are not designed to be kept permanently, yes I would love it if he changes that or make at least not tamable/stealing for others.
The game has advanced a lot, if you speak to old players they would tell you how you would lose your pets soon you die but now we get to keep it.
What could be a good idea if GM makes pet permanently for any1 under lvl 170.
There is a reason why we have 3 diff class. If all class was same then game becomes pointless. Cannot compare classes to each other as they are designed to be different.
Wiz pets are not designed to be kept permanently, yes I would love it if he changes that or make at least not tamable/stealing for others.
The game has advanced a lot, if you speak to old players they would tell you how you would lose your pets soon you die but now we get to keep it.
What could be a good idea if GM makes pet permanently for any1 under lvl 170.
I've had a lot of messages back and forth over the years with Andy, I've learned in that time what gets results and what doesn't
This post is aggressive, accusatory, and to put it mildly, comes off as a directionless rant
While I probably agree with a lot of your points, I'd love to see wiz be made great again, and I do feel like they are a lot harder to play than they used to be. But I honestly found it very difficult to read your post, it's a rant rather than a proposal
I suspect Andy will glance at this for 2 seconds and come to the same conclusion
If you want actual change, treat it like a business proposal
I'd do it myself but I'm not investing anywhere near the time I used to in the game any more, but if you can post something like that I'd very much be in support of it
Best of luck
This post is aggressive, accusatory, and to put it mildly, comes off as a directionless rant
While I probably agree with a lot of your points, I'd love to see wiz be made great again, and I do feel like they are a lot harder to play than they used to be. But I honestly found it very difficult to read your post, it's a rant rather than a proposal
I suspect Andy will glance at this for 2 seconds and come to the same conclusion
If you want actual change, treat it like a business proposal
- Lay out clearly the specific points and exactly what issues they cause
- Find his previous responses to similar requests in the past and address his concerns / reasons for not acting
- Provide reasonable proposals that fit into his modus operandi, ie, won't upset game balance, won't make pets into a whole new expansion, want be too much work, won't be a stepping stone for further requests
- Keep it factual and emotionless
I'd do it myself but I'm not investing anywhere near the time I used to in the game any more, but if you can post something like that I'd very much be in support of it
Best of luck
JnavI
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I understand your frustration, but first please post your in game name for your requests to have an impact on "them", as advised from certain trolls on this forum.
mrstevieorder666
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I mean, before the post is locked, people really shouldn't be able to steal someone else's pets.
Once they are tamed they should be untamable to others.
Once they are tamed they should be untamable to others.
Just disable pets interaction in pvp. They won't attack players and can't be attacked (killed/stolen)
Only problem I see that causing is that people will use them to block doors, but just enforce that with temporary bans and make reporting easy, people will do it once then stop if GM takes the rules seriously. Then it's not really a problem
Only problem I see that causing is that people will use them to block doors, but just enforce that with temporary bans and make reporting easy, people will do it once then stop if GM takes the rules seriously. Then it's not really a problem
Mustafa13
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Yes I agree with this statement even though I am not a wizard and it does not benefit me in anyway, it just seems fair!
All I have to say on the subject is this - yes, I lost my cool last night and went on a massive rant, because in all honesty I was very annoyed and I quite simply needed to vent, and I can't exactly vent to family or friends about my pets being stolen in a video game can I lol. I actually stand by what I said on the subject though, I could have gone about it in a better way, agreed. I've removed the post out of slight embarrassment for myself for getting that wound up over a game, but you can still view it via zad48231 link.
The fact is though, I do stand by everything I said - it was how I felt at the time, and I believe it all to be true. I hope it is a raw summary of how it makes a wizard / person feel at the time, who goes through this daily. It is beyond frustrating to be quite honest, so frustrating in fact, that I've decided to walk away from the game if this remains a thing, in particular the pet thievery.
I have calmed down now, I speak with a sensible head on, everyone is entitled to their opinion. For me, due to how much it's spoilt my gameplay/is spoiling my gameplay, and how frustrated it has made me (I'm fully aware it isn't healthy to get this upset over a game) I have come to the decision that if pet stealing within the game remains a thing within the capacity that it is in (1 or 2 zaps) with zero warning, I am just not going to play or contribute any more. I won't be the first person to walk away because of this. I personally think this is a major issue that the GM needs to look at, there are plenty of posts on this forum, people talking about it in game and players who have left the game or ended up making alt chars for it to have at least some attention. Whilst I appreciate you want me to come up with a solution, it's not my responsibility really is it, I'm a paying customer who's experiencing/noticing a trend of frustration with no resolution or acknowledgement.
It is what it is, if that's how it is and is always going to be, fine, we can all move on. I would like to say that I spend/spent plenty of GG in this game getting to where I am, supporting the server and I was looking forward to finally being able to do some bosses solo... even the low level ones that other classes could do a long time before I could at this level before I got pets tameable way above the level they could just take bosses out at lol, but after all the hard work and finally reaching the level I always strived for, for the simple fact how rife and easy it is for someone to ruin my day, I really cannot see the point in continuing to play, it just takes the whole enjoyment out of reaching the level away, I almost wish I was lvl 120 again not lvl 190+, it's taken the whole enjoyment out of playing the game away for me and quite simply it is absolutely pointless me playing a game where I am constantly on edge about losing something other classes don't have to worry about because they can achieve what I can without them, and it doesn't take them countless hours trying to get them, and having my entire game experienced destroyed when someone takes them.
It's not even as if the pets are that OP they just enable us to kill bosses the same level that other classes can do, and the main issue is they can be stolen in seconds by other wizzies. Ironically, other wizzies are the issue in this situation, I don't care if a warrior or tao kill my pets that would be careless gameplay from me - not just someone using a tele ring to get next to you when you're trying to kill a boss and press a key once to bloody tame them from you. If you want a suggestion make pets more obtainable, that's the simple one. Or 10x Zaps + to tame with a warning or something. The whole issue with how ripe and game destroying for a wizzy that it is should be the only indication you need for change IMO the writing is on the wall, surely. It's ridiculous.
It really has made me that fed up the whole thing. Today is the first day I haven't logged in for about 12/13 weeks or whatever it has been, I have deleted the game, literally. That is how annoyed it has made me. the GM will know who I am, it won't be hard to trace my account, I don't think knowing my in game name or not will make a difference in all honesty, it's quite obvious it's a real experience that has caused this frustration, you can just find it yourself if you go back on my account posts anyway..., I don't see what knowing an in game or not will achieve, the facts are the facts. I've retired from the game unless something changes. I have nothing more to say now really, I just wanted to clear things up. I will check back on this post for sure and from time to time to see if anything changes, if it does I will come back and have a go, if not I won't. That's just what I've decided is the best option for myself, it's not a threat or attack on anyone by any means it's just how I feel. Good luck to everyone playing the game and thankyou to all who supported me in game and responded to this post.
The fact is though, I do stand by everything I said - it was how I felt at the time, and I believe it all to be true. I hope it is a raw summary of how it makes a wizard / person feel at the time, who goes through this daily. It is beyond frustrating to be quite honest, so frustrating in fact, that I've decided to walk away from the game if this remains a thing, in particular the pet thievery.
I have calmed down now, I speak with a sensible head on, everyone is entitled to their opinion. For me, due to how much it's spoilt my gameplay/is spoiling my gameplay, and how frustrated it has made me (I'm fully aware it isn't healthy to get this upset over a game) I have come to the decision that if pet stealing within the game remains a thing within the capacity that it is in (1 or 2 zaps) with zero warning, I am just not going to play or contribute any more. I won't be the first person to walk away because of this. I personally think this is a major issue that the GM needs to look at, there are plenty of posts on this forum, people talking about it in game and players who have left the game or ended up making alt chars for it to have at least some attention. Whilst I appreciate you want me to come up with a solution, it's not my responsibility really is it, I'm a paying customer who's experiencing/noticing a trend of frustration with no resolution or acknowledgement.
It is what it is, if that's how it is and is always going to be, fine, we can all move on. I would like to say that I spend/spent plenty of GG in this game getting to where I am, supporting the server and I was looking forward to finally being able to do some bosses solo... even the low level ones that other classes could do a long time before I could at this level before I got pets tameable way above the level they could just take bosses out at lol, but after all the hard work and finally reaching the level I always strived for, for the simple fact how rife and easy it is for someone to ruin my day, I really cannot see the point in continuing to play, it just takes the whole enjoyment out of reaching the level away, I almost wish I was lvl 120 again not lvl 190+, it's taken the whole enjoyment out of playing the game away for me and quite simply it is absolutely pointless me playing a game where I am constantly on edge about losing something other classes don't have to worry about because they can achieve what I can without them, and it doesn't take them countless hours trying to get them, and having my entire game experienced destroyed when someone takes them.
It's not even as if the pets are that OP they just enable us to kill bosses the same level that other classes can do, and the main issue is they can be stolen in seconds by other wizzies. Ironically, other wizzies are the issue in this situation, I don't care if a warrior or tao kill my pets that would be careless gameplay from me - not just someone using a tele ring to get next to you when you're trying to kill a boss and press a key once to bloody tame them from you. If you want a suggestion make pets more obtainable, that's the simple one. Or 10x Zaps + to tame with a warning or something. The whole issue with how ripe and game destroying for a wizzy that it is should be the only indication you need for change IMO the writing is on the wall, surely. It's ridiculous.
It really has made me that fed up the whole thing. Today is the first day I haven't logged in for about 12/13 weeks or whatever it has been, I have deleted the game, literally. That is how annoyed it has made me. the GM will know who I am, it won't be hard to trace my account, I don't think knowing my in game name or not will make a difference in all honesty, it's quite obvious it's a real experience that has caused this frustration, you can just find it yourself if you go back on my account posts anyway..., I don't see what knowing an in game or not will achieve, the facts are the facts. I've retired from the game unless something changes. I have nothing more to say now really, I just wanted to clear things up. I will check back on this post for sure and from time to time to see if anything changes, if it does I will come back and have a go, if not I won't. That's just what I've decided is the best option for myself, it's not a threat or attack on anyone by any means it's just how I feel. Good luck to everyone playing the game and thankyou to all who supported me in game and responded to this post.
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vexus
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Can pets be stolen irl?
If a wizard IRL came up to me throwing electric shocks from his fingers, he can do whatever he wants with my pets, I'm oudda there
vexus
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Lol we are on the same boat in that case.
There is no problem with pets or with the pet taming system. The only problem is people love the BPD pets ...it's a sort of status symbol, I have seen alot of wizz not taming wasps or axe from BPD everybody wants claws although difference is not that big between them .There are other type of pets that work very fine , go tame bug cave pets , i did it myself they strong enough to kill balor hobgoblin warlord etc etc , go tame Moths from ST , go tame hulks from ship challenge. Someone comes and steal your pets no problem rt for 10 min in bc and you have a fresh pair of pets. So pls stop with the nonsense
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There are far to few pets passed 180 that are actually useful for their intended purpose. Being tanks.
In point of fact I've asked this before and I'll ask again here, name one non champ mob passed 190 that can be tamed. There isn't any.
The only logical choice is bdp and rdd pets. Bdp being the easier of the two, and by easier I mean needing multiple people to backpack you to get them.
The real issue isn't pet stealing, it's the availability of useful mobs to tame. There just flat isn't any.
I've asked about a menagerie system before, to allow people to pay gold, soul, gg for pets, but its never been responded to. It's the reason I stopped playing my wiz back in april.
My wiz has sat at 188 since Easter collecting dust, and im sure there are plenty of others like me.
In point of fact I've asked this before and I'll ask again here, name one non champ mob passed 190 that can be tamed. There isn't any.
The only logical choice is bdp and rdd pets. Bdp being the easier of the two, and by easier I mean needing multiple people to backpack you to get them.
The real issue isn't pet stealing, it's the availability of useful mobs to tame. There just flat isn't any.
I've asked about a menagerie system before, to allow people to pay gold, soul, gg for pets, but its never been responded to. It's the reason I stopped playing my wiz back in april.
My wiz has sat at 188 since Easter collecting dust, and im sure there are plenty of others like me.
If you killed Balor with 5 blue moths from ST than I am astounded, you must have some real good kit. If you send me a video of 5 blue moths from ST killing Balor without intervention from a player - 5 blue ST moths kill Balor in a video, posted to this forum from you - than I will literally eat human poo. Honestly, I will eat human poo and I will post it here. Blue tongs are twice as better as the moths and they melt, which are the best pets outside of private caves you can get fyi, much better than these weak pathetic blue moths you seem to enjoy. I only had wasps as well by the way, I was grateful for them wasps, and that is what is considered high enough value to be stolen with how things are currently. Hulks are absolute trash they die to savage terror lord, they have 3 times as less AC than a blue tong, unless you are fortunate enough to get a super or a champ of course but guess what, people way ahead of in gear have tele rings etc and can tame them long before a casual can find them most of the time. And the problem isn't with the pet taming system it's how hard it is for someone without connections to get decent pets, and how easy it is to steal them if you are fortunate enough to get them. You only have to listen to the responses from any wizard to see that it is a problem. Nurture itself doesn't even work as described, 60 minutes as per usual not as advertised by the way, I mean this has surely been ignored too long, the spell literally doesn't work as described. And whilst we are on the subject... I wouldn't mind an old school system! Let them die when I log out, let them die when I die, let them die after 2/3 hours just make the more accessible to the average joe I wouldn't even mind the pet thievery if the pet system operated this way, so long as it was sustainable.
23 wizz in the top 80, of that 23 10 are no longer being played, most seem to get fed up with wizz around 185-191 though check them rankings out if you look its a wizz graveyard.
My solution which I have been very vocal about is give wizz a very powerful rapid fire skill which will allow wiz to kill champs and bosses before they die of old age, and remove op pets altogether.
There is no other class that relies on a lvl 13 skill so heavily.
Protus even getting 5 tongs can take days, not always but I have more than a few times spent days gathering 5, also bdp wasps are pretty not great, die very fast (i always take them they just die fast that's fact)
Also I highly doubt your comments about balor and hobgoblin warlord, I would consider myself very resourceful and my tongs die to zt and its easy.
My solution which I have been very vocal about is give wizz a very powerful rapid fire skill which will allow wiz to kill champs and bosses before they die of old age, and remove op pets altogether.
There is no other class that relies on a lvl 13 skill so heavily.
Protus even getting 5 tongs can take days, not always but I have more than a few times spent days gathering 5, also bdp wasps are pretty not great, die very fast (i always take them they just die fast that's fact)
Also I highly doubt your comments about balor and hobgoblin warlord, I would consider myself very resourceful and my tongs die to zt and its easy.
I am so happy people are agreeing with me, there simply IS a problem. Protus is talking testicles. If I am in that top 80, I am no longer playing. So knock it down another 1. If Protus posts a video of 5 blue ST moths killing Balor, I eat human poo. Offer stands, one way for him to shut this convo down once and for all, what an easy response he has. Come on Protos show me 5 moths, tongs or hulks killing Balor, any combination of the 3 LOL, SHOW ME..... LOL. Wild statement, absolutely wild untrue statement. He's been smoking grass man......................
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