game points

[badgal123p69]

hey there andy i seen loads of people waste to many points within point caves and not haveing any left to go on hunts is there anyway to have like a x2 supers and champs say every second weekend

and allso with the points u are getting 2 point guild but 1 for player yeah i know people with sub will get 2 or 3 points but how about just adding the points up by 1 and if u have sub u would get 3points for a supper and 4 for a champ but no sub would be 2 points for supper and 3 for a champ

i really think this would help them players out as it is you are getting people in guild new to the game they cant make points easy but then u have the guilds wanting to hunt and lvl in point caves leaveing all the new and low lvl players out...

ohh and i have heard some people logged out within the pointcaves and didnt come back for a while will lose points while there offline not just like 10 to 15 for logging back on it was more like 200 or more

thanks for reading hope this will give you any idears

 

[zad48231]

The whole purpose of the GP caves is because there were loads of people with huge amounts of GP and nothing to spend them on, now there's something to spend them on.

If you make GP much easier to get then we'll just end up back where we started with people sitting on huge amounts. GP are already horrendously easy to obtain, there's no need for this in my opinion

 

[C289]

The whole purpose of the GP caves is because there were loads of people with huge amounts of GP and nothing to spend them on, now there's something to spend them on.

If you make GP much easier to get then we'll just end up back where we started with people sitting on huge amounts. GP are already horrendously easy to obtain, there's no need for this in my opinion

Exactly what Zade said.

If you want to use GP caves go and earn your GP first. It's that simple.


Perhaps some noob caves may need the volume of blue and red mobs in them looked at though?

I'm using the GP caves most days for a hunt and I'm still gaining points from bosses/ tomb lvling. It's generally pretty easy to make GP in game.

 

[badgal123p69]

to the whole running in caves to get points yes easy to get but 1 point per blue on a day lucky to get 15 to 20 supers = max points 20 not much for a hunt with higher lvl players

and here we go .............. bosses you are lucky to find a boss within the game were i will get points after 150+ as there all being camped haveing to pk for a boss to get points ... i cant say that is fair at all but people who need points for them caves cant make them easy at all


Zade you are a high lvl you dont need the point caves yes and u dont need to hunt points as u have tons but think of the other players within the game there not all like you ..... i feel like when you come in and comment on all the stuff it all about you game play but if it is not u have to understand from others points of vue not just your self and higher lvl guilds and so on not everyone has the kit or power like the best people in the game

 

[zad48231]

to the whole running in caves to get points yes easy to get but 1 point per blue on a day lucky to get 15 to 20 supers = max points 20 not much for a hunt with higher lvl players

and here we go .............. bosses you are lucky to find a boss within the game were i will get points after 150+ as there all being camped haveing to pk for a boss to get points ... i cant say that is fair at all but people who need points for them caves cant make them easy at all


Zade you are a high lvl you dont need the point caves yes and u dont need to hunt points as u have tons but think of the other players within the game there not all like you ..... i feel like when you come in and comment on all the stuff it all about you game play but if it is not u have to understand from others points of vue not just your self and higher lvl guilds and so on not everyone has the kit or power like the best people in the game

You seem to have forgotten I have other characters

My taoist and warrior benefit a lot from the GP caves, if they are running low (they aren't) then I can easily go and get some more GP. If you hunt in other areas and clear mobs you will get lots of blues and reds.

The GP caves are not meant to be a permanent place to level, they are a nice bonus if you have enough GP, there are plenty of other places to hunt where your GP will go up instead of down

 

[badgal123p69]

How about this ........ a new guild sheild it can go next to gold and exp sheilds were u buy it and it will give you more points for supper and champions mobs mite kill most of the unfair ness and give the frist 3 sheild to all town guilds like BorderPatrol and so on would help lower lvls and guild with points can buy the sheild to help there guild get more points say 150guildbuild points and 20mil gold to get the sheild

 

[zad48231]

How about this ........ a new guild sheild it can go next to gold and exp sheilds were u buy it and it will give you more points for supper and champions mobs mite kill most of the unfair ness and give the frist 3 sheild to all town guilds like BorderPatrol and so on would help lower lvls and guild with points can buy the sheild to help there guild get more points say 150guildbuild points and 20mil gold to get the sheild

Again, I don't think there's any unfairness here. Level is not really relevant, if anything it's actually easier to get GP when you are lower level. Blue mobs in most areas give me nothing when I'm on my wiz.

It's all down to activity. The game rewards activity. If you're active and your guild has active players in it you will be fine and not encounter any of these problems. Trying to skip your way around it to get the benefits of levelling without doing the levelling doesn't really benefit the server in any way, I'd even go so far as to say it would make the server worse because the people who put the most effort in will get less benefit from that effort and might just stop.

Ideas are about quality rather than quantity, rather than using a scattergun approach to your suggestions, putting your fingers into your brain and spewing whatever comes out straight onto the forum, take a step back and consider the global impact of your ideas, what will they affect, what will they improve, will there be any knock on effects... all these things need to have at least a passing consideration or you just look silly and are less likely to have your thoughts seriously considered.

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update: I wouldn't normally be so harsh, but pming me ingame to challenge me to "answer that one" kinda triggered me just a little bit, so have at it, consider it answered

 

[Aro]

I do like the new shield idea, and I'm sure up and coming guilds could benefit from it there are 3 or 4 fairly active new guilds

 

[optimusprime]

As this is just a recent addition to the game, which seems to working ok, imo, as stated by other if you want to go to these places it’s no different from going to RDD or BDP, there is loads of places to obtain game points for all levels. Putting a bit effort in gets you rewards, think some people are just lazy wanting to have everything and do nothing for it!!
Going in caves reliant to your level will give probably better exp anyway, it’s nice to have places like this as an additional option. I’m sure it will be looked at later in the year to see how it’s working for players, always people in them caves most of the time.

 

[Alsiral]

New caves are great and part of their design was to be a gp sink. Goal achieved. Please don’t make GP easier to get! Things getting too easy for ppl as it is!

 

[vexus]

to the whole running in caves to get points yes easy to get but 1 point per blue on a day lucky to get 15 to 20 supers = max points 20 not much for a hunt with higher lvl players

and here we go .............. bosses you are lucky to find a boss within the game were i will get points after 150+ as there all being camped haveing to pk for a boss to get points ... i cant say that is fair at all but people who need points for them caves cant make them easy at all


Zade you are a high lvl you dont need the point caves yes and u dont need to hunt points as u have tons but think of the other players within the game there not all like you ..... i feel like when you come in and comment on all the stuff it all about you game play but if it is not u have to understand from others points of vue not just your self and higher lvl guilds and so on not everyone has the kit or power like the best people in the game

Your missing the whole point of playing game. It’s a win win situation you go out to hunt whilst hunting you increase your level you have good chance of getting some sort of rare at same point you earn GP. Now these cave were introduced like zed said to have people spend it on something and a good chance of getting a rare reward from within the cave. Long story short you can’t have everything on plate the GM has balanced it nicely.

 

[Hiren]

So I started about end of March did not know about the under120buff so I lvled normally amassed a lot of GP over 4K whilst being able to camp smaller bosses in Terror Temple. For me I am one of those who needs to spend the GP

But newer players have lvled with the buff and got to 120 within a week or so so maybe not have gathered as much GP and I know certain friends and guildies that started out like this are the ones scrimping now.

 

[zad48231]

So I started about end of March did not know about the under120buff so I lvled normally amassed a lot of GP over 4K whilst being able to camp smaller bosses in Terror Temple. For me I am one of those who needs to spend the GP

But newer players have lvled with the buff and got to 120 within a week or so so maybe not have gathered as much GP and I know certain friends and guildies that started out like this are the ones scrimping now.

100% this. I've always said this is a game of moderation and variety, there's so many aspects of the game

- Levelling
- Bosses
- Building kit
- Earning gold
- Doing quests
- PvP
- Socialising

Out of those 7, ideally you want to be focused on 3 or 4 of them. If you try to do 5+ of those things your progress will be slow. If you try to do only 1 or 2 of those things, then it gets exponentially more difficult as you get deeper into the game, to the point where you see posts like this claiming things are "impossible" or "unfair".

Many new players are desperate to "catch up" and will take shortcuts to certain levels or obtaining certain items, often boosted by higher level players who think they are helping. These are the players who get caught up in such traps and end up feeling like the game isn't playable.

To those people I say take a step back, relax a little bit, and spread your focus over more than just 1 thing. It might feel counter-intuitive, you want to achieve X so just focus on X, but it simply doesn't work that way. Think about what will benefit you in your goal to achieve X and work on building those things up too.

The way I visualise it is like a tower vs a pyramid. If you focus on one aspect of the game it's like building a tower as high as you can and trying to stop it falling over. Spending some time building sideways might seem like it isn't helping your tower get taller, but it helps the stability so you can build higher in the future with less work.

 

[Hiren]

Re the guild shield for double GP not a bad idea - IMO i think it will take a lot to sort as it may need a re-design of current.

I don't really sell things on a stall much but - there is an option to sell stuff for gamepoints - would that be something worth looking into? as I don't think you can at the moment? It would be a way fellow guildies can trade points. It sucks for person who does not have points for RDD and you got a grp going which has a decent chance of completing it

 

[zad48231]

Re the guild shield for double GP not a bad idea - IMO i think it will take a lot to sort as it may need a re-design of current.

I don't really sell things on a stall much but - there is an option to sell stuff for gamepoints - would that be something worth looking into? as I don't think you can at the moment? It would be a way fellow guildies can trade points. It sucks for person who does not have points for RDD and you got a grp going which has a decent chance of completing it

Quite the opposite actually, you used to be able to sell things for game points, but back then they weren't really used for anything other than buying your way out of hell (after pking) or changing your hair.

When they became actually useful and valuable the ability to trade GP was intentionally removed, because it's so much easier to get them on low level characters so high levels would be able to "cheat the system" by getting lots of GP on low level characters then gifting them to their main

 

[badgal123p69]

look selling gp is now in the past but now people will lost more point then there makeing ....... spending real money on the game for people with in the game is to much ..... 10mil to make 40gg from reset ...... gg keeps bloody droppping in price unless andy makes a way for a gold bar to be sold for 35gg and no less the game is allways going to be unfair there people out there that trying to sell cheaper and faster witch is unfair .... make gold bars sold for one price and cant be changed would be fair but there everyone that wants more for less as u say about this post is about .... the game points are low look how many people are playing within the day lests say 90 player per day u have 20 player just hunting bosses 10 lvling the best they can in point caves 10 with no point lvling in cave all fighting for the same points and say 50 players under 150 getting easy points look at them 10 people fighting to get points all day say lucky they make at lest 20points a day from leveling and hunting without sub ...... and they can make the gg to buy sub due to all the sells on 10mil gold

 

[Alsiral]

look selling gp is now in the past but now people will lost more point then there makeing ....... spending real money on the game for people with in the game is to much ..... 10mil to make 40gg from reset ...... gg keeps bloody droppping in price unless andy makes a way for a gold bar to be sold for 35gg and no less the game is allways going to be unfair there people out there that trying to sell cheaper and faster witch is unfair .... make gold bars sold for one price and cant be changed would be fair but there everyone that wants more for less as u say about this post is about .... the game points are low look how many people are playing within the day lests say 90 player per day u have 20 player just hunting bosses 10 lvling the best they can in point caves 10 with no point lvling in cave all fighting for the same points and say 50 players under 150 getting easy points look at them 10 people fighting to get points all day say lucky they make at lest 20points a day from leveling and hunting without sub ...... and they can make the gg to buy sub due to all the sells on 10mil gold

You seem to be obsessed with the idea that u are unable to farm gp. No matter what lvl you are there is somewhere in game that you can rake in the gp and not just rely on a small handful of bosses and then moan you can’t get enough go cos other ppl kill them.

As far as gold goes, u clearly not been playing long. I have seen the price of gold fluctuate from 20-50 gg in the time I’ve played. It’s basic game economics

 

[zad48231]

look selling gp is now in the past but now people will lost more point then there makeing ....... spending real money on the game for people with in the game is to much ..... 10mil to make 40gg from reset ...... gg keeps bloody droppping in price unless andy makes a way for a gold bar to be sold for 35gg and no less the game is allways going to be unfair there people out there that trying to sell cheaper and faster witch is unfair .... make gold bars sold for one price and cant be changed would be fair but there everyone that wants more for less as u say about this post is about .... the game points are low look how many people are playing within the day lests say 90 player per day u have 20 player just hunting bosses 10 lvling the best they can in point caves 10 with no point lvling in cave all fighting for the same points and say 50 players under 150 getting easy points look at them 10 people fighting to get points all day say lucky they make at lest 20points a day from leveling and hunting without sub ...... and they can make the gg to buy sub due to all the sells on 10mil gold

What I find interesting is that on one hand we have Scorpian who has managed 2 of the longest running servers Mir has ever seen and somehow kept them both going with active and thriving economies, and on the other hand we have you who erm, what is it you've done?

I'm pretty confident I know which opinion I give more weight to.

You're looking for something for nothing, ain't gonna happen. Bowlers don't knock pins down without leaving the bar, fishermen don't catch fish without a rod etc. etc.

Go actually do the things, and you'll get the rewards. If you think you're doing the things and not getting the rewards then you aren't doing the things properly. Instead of insisting they are changed to benefit you specifically, maybe take some of the masses of advice you've already been given on how to play more effectively.

 

[badgal123p69]

so what u are saying i am doing everything wrong for being a lvl were i have to pk for points or be the frist to find the blue or red when people run for them and you are saying am doing this game all wrong am sorry but we are not all pkers we dont have kit to fight people to make our selfs better as in if someone in a guild that not in a big ass guild pks one of u all u seen is a group of people hunting you just to kill you but am doing it all wrong ........ lower lvl players have to eat the lower exp' points and bosses that is all left over ....... but all the lower levels are wrong as all the bosses are not getting camped or farmed for points when i run in caves to try get game points i see dragons or imms running ahead killing blues and reds but am doing it alll wrong ........ someone is wrong but how can i be wrong if am makeing about 6 points per day from blues mobs and the rest keep getting stolen from players that would kill me .......... that is 6 points with sub after 5 months of saveing up gold and playing as much as i can there is lvl 160 camping lvl 110 bosses how can you say the game can grow with that ....... yeaaa 160 are makeing all the gg and gold what about the lower levels what are they makeing sweet f* all but we all are doing the wrong thing not pushing trying to make ourself better as we cant make the points

 

[murderlord]

Yu clearly not been playing long.

Considering her account on here is visibly 3 years older than yours that's pretty funny actually.