I agree take away bdp pets let's have fun with out them for change and bring back witches
Pet Stealing / Pet Availability / Pet Timers / Wizard Play In General
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I dont care if pets are stealable or not.
Whether or not pets get stolen or killed is NOT the problem.
The problem is availability of pets and the amount of mobs you can tame at 188+.
Again
There are zero useful mobs, to my knowledge, other than rdd and bdd pets to tame passed level 188.
That is the issue here. There needs to be more access to pets by wizards then this issue would be moot.
Whether or not pets get stolen or killed is NOT the problem.
The problem is availability of pets and the amount of mobs you can tame at 188+.
Again
There are zero useful mobs, to my knowledge, other than rdd and bdd pets to tame passed level 188.
That is the issue here. There needs to be more access to pets by wizards then this issue would be moot.
I do agree with you Frank. It just vexes me when others try to pass themselves off as Mother Teresa when their words and actions (and the actions of those they associate with and defend) are very much different.
I try to ensure my posts are inoffensive and based in reality (or at least my perception of it). Oh, and do I think everyone in my guild is beyond reproach? Do I heck - I just wont defend them or suggest to others that they are wrong by simple virtue of not being 'on my team'.
It’s down to a toxic community rather than a server issue this pet thing and this thread shows it.
What realistically can be done?
So really what do you want him to do? Surely making wizards stronger can’t be the answer, they can be already made deadly. Make pets more accessible maybe, but then we could have the same type of issues of where people take your levelled pets.
People stopping to play wizards can’t be right, but this is Mir and pets have always been killed and stolen, and strong, it’s really the fact people are expecting to keep their pets which causes the biggest issue, if they just died when you logged off like they used to then I think it would be solved, or reduce the time you keep them whilst logged off to something more reasonable like 15mins to cover connection issues, that way if you afk they will untame and if you log off they’ll die anyway. Makes the whole argument null and void and wizard players will start to adjust over time.
What realistically can be done?
- If he makes pets passive and can’t be tamed, is that a lot of work because maybe if a mob is able to be tamed then the server does not decipher whether it is a pet or not, just that it is that particular mob file which can be tamed.
- Taming a mob with e shock use to take a lot longer than it does now and this was shortened because people rightly complained, but a repercussion of this change was that it takes people seconds to steal your pets now.
- Letting people log off with their pets and extending pet timers to 60mins was added to make life easier for wizards, but now this has created a sentimental value among the player base to them.
So really what do you want him to do? Surely making wizards stronger can’t be the answer, they can be already made deadly. Make pets more accessible maybe, but then we could have the same type of issues of where people take your levelled pets.
People stopping to play wizards can’t be right, but this is Mir and pets have always been killed and stolen, and strong, it’s really the fact people are expecting to keep their pets which causes the biggest issue, if they just died when you logged off like they used to then I think it would be solved, or reduce the time you keep them whilst logged off to something more reasonable like 15mins to cover connection issues, that way if you afk they will untame and if you log off they’ll die anyway. Makes the whole argument null and void and wizard players will start to adjust over time.
Not to sound like a broken record here lmao
If there were more USABLE pet options that were NOT multiple floors deep in dungeons that require a TEAM of people to get, NONE of this would be an issue.
Just saying..
No other class has this requirement to be fully functional.
As much as I hate to say this, it is entirely a game design issue. That's not me being mean or rude, it's just truth. There were more pets, crypt witches, but people in pvp complained and they were removed.
The solution is, more usable pets that can act as tanks for wizzies over 188. Damage is irrelevant.
If there were more USABLE pet options that were NOT multiple floors deep in dungeons that require a TEAM of people to get, NONE of this would be an issue.
Just saying..
No other class has this requirement to be fully functional.
As much as I hate to say this, it is entirely a game design issue. That's not me being mean or rude, it's just truth. There were more pets, crypt witches, but people in pvp complained and they were removed.
The solution is, more usable pets that can act as tanks for wizzies over 188. Damage is irrelevant.
Not so sure I agree that the community is toxic, but there are definitely a few individuals always looking to gain a slight advantage, even if by means that others would say are 'cheating' or 'abuse'. Why it means that much to them is what I cannot fathom.
The last thing on my mind when I log in is 'what exploit can I find today'.
The toxicity comes out when their antics are challenged, as they don't like a fair fight or level playing field.
If individuals made less work for GM trying to prevent their antics then GM would have more time for all the good stuff (such as sorting out wizz pets).
Surely they can see that?
The last thing on my mind when I log in is 'what exploit can I find today'.
The toxicity comes out when their antics are challenged, as they don't like a fair fight or level playing field.
If individuals made less work for GM trying to prevent their antics then GM would have more time for all the good stuff (such as sorting out wizz pets).
Surely they can see that?
Castle war declared every night for months on end, each time with no intentions of showing up is toxic behaviour from the community
Finding wizards hunting with difficult to find pets just to steal them is toxic behaviour from the community
If one side does it, the other side will then do it too, it’s inevitable and you end up in this stalemate where now it’s up to the GM to change the game to prevent it from happening or it’ll just keep happening, and it’s not always that simple.
If there were more available pets then you would just have your levelled ones taken and slaughtered and then that’ll set you back again, it’s not going to stop the action from happening just because they are closer to SZ. Also, doesn’t it seem logical that the strongest pets should be the most difficult to find?
Finding wizards hunting with difficult to find pets just to steal them is toxic behaviour from the community
If one side does it, the other side will then do it too, it’s inevitable and you end up in this stalemate where now it’s up to the GM to change the game to prevent it from happening or it’ll just keep happening, and it’s not always that simple.
If there were more available pets then you would just have your levelled ones taken and slaughtered and then that’ll set you back again, it’s not going to stop the action from happening just because they are closer to SZ. Also, doesn’t it seem logical that the strongest pets should be the most difficult to find?
dozzz
Active Member
Cuz u nub I kill zt 0 pets 1:45 mints
Still not logged in since bringing this up, topics gone a bit wayward, the issues I have are highlighted by the way this topic has gone... you clearly have to pick a 'side' in this game to get these pets and/or make progress. Without a 'side' you can't get the pets you need to try and hunt for gear/money/gg solo, or group hunt the gear you need for progression, what about someone who doesn't want to pick sides, they simply have no access to the pets or gear? This is the loop I'm talking about by trying to keep myself to myself - they're all interlinked unless you spend a lot of money. If you don't have a side, that just makes you more vulnerable to stealing... as you're now fair game to anyone because a neutral has nobody vouching for them, so staying neutral just works against you. Even though that neutral has likely helped people on both sides of the 'war' who are actively trying to fuck your shit up. Give me something fairly decent and obtainable at 190+ even if they die on logout, get stolen or whatever. I'm a happy man. Being a neutral, who tries to help anyone who asks for help and is actively trying to stay away from all this bullshit, shouldn't result in the consequences that are happening. If that's the way it is fine, people will just stop playing - exhibit A.
Its not quite as simple as sides buddy.
I am in a guild. Hardly anything drops for me (other than in event) and I loath the recent changes made to gold. If they don't go back I will probably have to think twice about staying. Having no gold is zero fun and I will not be forced to buy from gold sellers. Not even sure why that is a thing on here, most other games the sale of gold is strictly forbidden other than by those running the game.
I personally, wouldn't try to feck up your game or the game of any PvE player, why would any reasonable player?
As I said, its not as simple as sides (there are good and bad on both) but also that this game is sometimes a bit of a ballache...
I am in a guild. Hardly anything drops for me (other than in event) and I loath the recent changes made to gold. If they don't go back I will probably have to think twice about staying. Having no gold is zero fun and I will not be forced to buy from gold sellers. Not even sure why that is a thing on here, most other games the sale of gold is strictly forbidden other than by those running the game.
I personally, wouldn't try to feck up your game or the game of any PvE player, why would any reasonable player?
As I said, its not as simple as sides (there are good and bad on both) but also that this game is sometimes a bit of a ballache...
Evidently they do, hence being annoyed and quitting >.<. I don't think reasonable is a thing in this game, but you can only punish the casual player so far and they'll just quit, I'd rather quit and let my issues known than just add to the drop off count without saying anything, maybe I'll be heard maybe I won't... but I'd rather say something than not for anyone else who experiences this past present or future.
Everyone against the ease of thievery wants it to stay for 1 reason and 1 reason only, coz they're too lazy to put the effort in to get them, and enjoy stealing them. It's all become apparent now, rewarding the shittiest of players hardly seems fair.
These are the guys campaigning against stopping thievery saying people that want it removed will make the game 'too easy', when they're the ones who want an easy life stealing LOL fuck meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. This is so obvious. Look at the post history of the opposition :/. The same people who will happily PK a level 120 at 190 to get a brace for there alt char coz why not that's not damaging for the server at all, what an experience that is! I'm looking at you - you know who you are
SPLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEERGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH about sums it up.
These are the guys campaigning against stopping thievery saying people that want it removed will make the game 'too easy', when they're the ones who want an easy life stealing LOL fuck meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. This is so obvious. Look at the post history of the opposition :/. The same people who will happily PK a level 120 at 190 to get a brace for there alt char coz why not
that's not damaging for the server at all, what an experience that is! I'm looking at you - you know who you areSPLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEERGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH about sums it up.
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The problem with removing the ability to take others pets is much deeper than people stealing pet.
I've helped so many people get slimehulks in sunken temple, and they never would be able to take them from me.
I've shared pets with people, that would stop.
Eshock to take pets from other people needs to take much much more effort imo.
And there needs to be more useful mobs to tame between 185 195
I've helped so many people get slimehulks in sunken temple, and they never would be able to take them from me.
I've shared pets with people, that would stop.
Eshock to take pets from other people needs to take much much more effort imo.
And there needs to be more useful mobs to tame between 185 195
skye
Active Member
dont worry bob,ithink the problem be solve soonEveryone against the ease of thievery wants it to stay for 1 reason and 1 reason only, coz they're too lazy to put the effort in to get them, and enjoy stealing them. It's all become apparent now, rewarding the shittiest of players hardly seems fair.
These are the guys campaigning against stopping thievery saying people that want it removed will make the game 'too easy', when they're the ones who want an easy life stealing LOL fuck meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. This is so obvious. Look at the post history of the opposition :/. The same people who will happily PK a level 120 at 190 to get a brace for there alt char coz why not
SPLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEERGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH about sums it up.
ggggfv
Active Member
wizzard pets are Overpowered and have made wizzards null and void, all they care about is there silly pets.... im sick of hearing about it, roll back 5 years and when u die your pets die too, what the hell would u lot of done then? commited suicide is my bet, just remove the silly bdp pets then nobody will care as much and make mobs that are more easily accessible and not as OP the new wizz pets, its rediculous a class is fully subjected to what pets they have and causing this much agro and sadness to other grown men / women hehe haha GG la.
Well done Scorp for discreetly solving this issue in the future
There are pets available very easily in new caves that are almost as good as BDP pets, but they are level 205+
After next level cap rise (probably one year away) everyone will use those and nobody will care about bdp any more. Claws will be treated the same way hulks are now, just for noobs and ppl won't bother to steal
I look forward to it
There are pets available very easily in new caves that are almost as good as BDP pets, but they are level 205+
After next level cap rise (probably one year away) everyone will use those and nobody will care about bdp any more. Claws will be treated the same way hulks are now, just for noobs and ppl won't bother to steal
I look forward to it
Please do remove bdp pets!! Make something reasonably powerful/obtainable after tongs in it's place, if they die on log out? Buzzing, who cares - all for it. People against just don't understand the issue. Not asking for BDP pets for free just something sustainable/obtainable the the casual.
ur
issue is you have an addiction to bdp pets, theres plenty after 188 that are USEFULL, will they solo bosses for u, no, and the shouldnt be able to anyway. stop being lazyNot to sound like a broken record here lmao
If there were more USABLE pet options that were NOT multiple floors deep in dungeons that require a TEAM of people to get, NONE of this would be an issue.
Just saying..
No other class has this requirement to be fully functional.
As much as I hate to say this, it is entirely a game design issue. That's not me being mean or rude, it's just truth. There were more pets, crypt witches, but people in pvp complained and they were removed.
The solution is, more usable pets that can act as tanks for wizzies over 188. Damage is irrelevant.