Frankleemad
Active Member
Wizard class on this server is pointless relys too much on pets and hp runes and does no damage at all. Just make a tao , wizard class is dead unless you have 20k+ gg and lots of time 
Pet Stealing / Pet Availability / Pet Timers / Wizard Play In General
- Thread starter justbob
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This is simply not true, for all the reasons I stated above.
stop being lazy and relying on pets, others can do it, think outside the box.
pdr kit is fine but it’s not for bosses, crank up ur mc to 2k and use moths tongs khazard yim and a different style of play.
having said that, look back on forum, I’ve been saying longer than most system needs looking at. A buff to double strike would do the trick
If you have the time, wizz is the most op class….Wizard class on this server is pointless relys too much on pets and hp runes and does no damage at all. Just make a tao , wizard class is dead unless you have 20k+ gg and lots of time
It can be. For obscene amounts of GG on Hp runes and kit.
The top wizzies have no less than 15 hp xls on their kit, full Ely, etc... This is simply out of reach for 90% of wizards.
You cant base an entire class off those specs.
You have to gauge its ability in base gear, and in base gear with no pets wizzies are outclassed in every way imaginable by Warr and Tao.
You cant assume everyone who will play wiz will throw 20k gg at kit lol.
You got some strange fetish buddy , if you want to eat poo go ahead you don't need videos to make you do that . Why people steal BPD pets .... your for real ....why not . They are the best pets in game . Discussion wasn't about that....was about alternatives and yes there are alternatives to bpd pets you just need to learn how to play with them . You are part of the skull island generation who skip alot of game play and alot of game play with limited spell and when you lose your pets rage quits because you lack the experience how to play with lesser ones
I agree with prasko,
the only saving grace without kit or lots of spare cash is good pets, which are only available from a place that's nigh on impossible for 90% to get to, and if they are lucky enough to get them, they get stolen by the top wizzies in said kit, who are always lurking around. Not everybody is in a big powerful guild. I just don't find this routine of playing fun, waiting around for weeks to get something you need, only to lose it often very quickly to someone way more powerful than you that doesn't need it as much. There's just constant panic when out on a free map doing anything, in particular trying bosses to make GG to get better kit. So, as this appears to be the game loop for me now at this lvl with no kit or cash, I've just moved onto playing games that don't make me feel that way for now. It's not rage quitting, it's making a sensible decision, games are supposed to be fun not stressful or as frustrating. And people steal them because they are gay. I personally wouldn't. Because I am not gay. And I never went to skull island, I don't even know what skull island is.
the only saving grace without kit or lots of spare cash is good pets, which are only available from a place that's nigh on impossible for 90% to get to, and if they are lucky enough to get them, they get stolen by the top wizzies in said kit, who are always lurking around. Not everybody is in a big powerful guild. I just don't find this routine of playing fun, waiting around for weeks to get something you need, only to lose it often very quickly to someone way more powerful than you that doesn't need it as much. There's just constant panic when out on a free map doing anything, in particular trying bosses to make GG to get better kit. So, as this appears to be the game loop for me now at this lvl with no kit or cash, I've just moved onto playing games that don't make me feel that way for now. It's not rage quitting, it's making a sensible decision, games are supposed to be fun not stressful or as frustrating. And people steal them because they are gay. I personally wouldn't. Because I am not gay. And I never went to skull island, I don't even know what skull island is.
You still need to learn to play the class before taking such a strong stance imo,
And frank, you say about hp runes and unlimited gg,
Danni isn’t a big donator……
Also hp sell for about 50 more than PA and for wars to do half ok damage they need a shed load of them so the argument falls flat I’m afraid
mrstevieorder666
Active Member
I think we all need to see the bigger picture, no matter what people's views are on the matter the consensus is that the wizard class has some issues that need to be rectified, and much of that is related to pets or the need for strong pets.
#MakeWizPetsNotStealablePlease take tongs into planes or st and see how long they last lol
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Again Danni plays 247, multiple accounts at the same time and has been doing it for what? Years and years? You can't compare all wizzies to Danni.
As for hp and pa runes. Yea pa runes help a warrior do more damage like mc and arcane does for a wiz, but a warrior doesn't REQUIRE hp runes to survive. Wizzies do, either hp or tanky pets, flat out, and a warriors single target damage is vastly superior to a wizzies unless we have some way to keep a boss or mob in our ground targeted aoe.
And before anyone says run in a circle, yea go have a sprinting contest with balor or big bird.
Wizz stacking spells and best single target skill combined is still only 1/4 to 1/3rd the damage other classes do to single target.
Agree with Alsiral, a big buff to multistrike could be a very easy viable solution to start, though last I checked lightening damage only hurts undead mobs on arcadia so another skill for a more long term solution my be needed, my worry is though if dishing out high damage wizz wouldnt need pets that also dish out high damage.
Prasko apples and oranges mate, war levels slow but eats boss, wizz level fast I believe wiz should be able to kill all champs easily just like tao/war but bosses should take longer.
I'm thinking back to before op pets were introduced, warrior could solo naga champ less than 5mins and did all day every day in desert tunnel 3f, wizz could solo naga champ in fortress averaging 15min, this additional time felt fair as we leveled much faster, get rid of the pets and bring this level of fairplay back.
Agree with Alsiral, a big buff to multistrike could be a very easy viable solution to start, though last I checked lightening damage only hurts undead mobs on arcadia so another skill for a more long term solution my be needed, my worry is though if dishing out high damage wizz wouldnt need pets that also dish out high damage.
Prasko apples and oranges mate, war levels slow but eats boss, wizz level fast I believe wiz should be able to kill all champs easily just like tao/war but bosses should take longer.
I'm thinking back to before op pets were introduced, warrior could solo naga champ less than 5mins and did all day every day in desert tunnel 3f, wizz could solo naga champ in fortress averaging 15min, this additional time felt fair as we leveled much faster, get rid of the pets and bring this level of fairplay back.
Leveling speed, to be honest, has nothing to do with the conversation at hand but since you brought it up lets have this discussion.
Wizzies over 188/190 are hamstringed by requiring one of two things. Pets that can tank damage, or obscene amounts of hp runes on their kit. End of discussion. You simply cannot level in planes or st without one of the two. And you are definitely not leveling in either with super tongs or wedgemoths.
Warriors don't require pets, or hp runes
Taos can cast unlimited pets and require no hp runes.
Look at the ranking chart and wonder why there are so many wizzies stuck at 180 to 190. They all gave up and made taos or warriors.
I was one of them.
I leveled my wiz over 6 months to 188 during Christmas and Easter.
It took half that time and just halloween to level my tao to 187.
Wizzies over 188/190 are hamstringed by requiring one of two things. Pets that can tank damage, or obscene amounts of hp runes on their kit. End of discussion. You simply cannot level in planes or st without one of the two. And you are definitely not leveling in either with super tongs or wedgemoths.
Warriors don't require pets, or hp runes
Taos can cast unlimited pets and require no hp runes.
Look at the ranking chart and wonder why there are so many wizzies stuck at 180 to 190. They all gave up and made taos or warriors.
I was one of them.
I leveled my wiz over 6 months to 188 during Christmas and Easter.
It took half that time and just halloween to level my tao to 187.
I agree with you, infact I bought up that exact argument earlier in this post regards the inbalance in rankings & I have also abandoned my wizz.
However you are here less than a year, this server is 12 years old, in 12 years wizz levelled silly fast by those who knew how to play them compared to war/tao. That dynamic seems to have changed in the past 18/24months to mean only wizz who spend exorbitant money or play 24/7 have that advantage past lvl 190ish.
I myself didnt get bdp pets until i returned here 4months ago, I levelled without pets right up to szt/bc, but after these caves its just not happening pets are required, I gave it a good go 3 months trying, my dislike of pets is deeply routed & well documented, i hate that i cannot afk, i hate how they die so easy I despise retameing and the anxiety of theft, if I go afk because i get company knock at the door and forget about this game, as you do when i come back pets are dead, fuck that, but most of all I hate that playing the class is completly reliant on electricshock a fkin lvl 13 spell....
However you are here less than a year, this server is 12 years old, in 12 years wizz levelled silly fast by those who knew how to play them compared to war/tao. That dynamic seems to have changed in the past 18/24months to mean only wizz who spend exorbitant money or play 24/7 have that advantage past lvl 190ish.
I myself didnt get bdp pets until i returned here 4months ago, I levelled without pets right up to szt/bc, but after these caves its just not happening pets are required, I gave it a good go 3 months trying, my dislike of pets is deeply routed & well documented, i hate that i cannot afk, i hate how they die so easy I despise retameing and the anxiety of theft, if I go afk because i get company knock at the door and forget about this game, as you do when i come back pets are dead, fuck that, but most of all I hate that playing the class is completly reliant on electricshock a fkin lvl 13 spell....
I think what the vast majority of people would agree on, is wizz needs work.
as much as some people don't want to let them go, getting rid of op pets is stage one (solves the stealing issue,)
stage two is balancing with new buffed spells to re add the attraction to the class, multi strike and thunder storm get my vote, make Lightning damage great again.
I will add, to all the wizzies out there complaining, how many of you have made a kit with light damage runes and tested it out? 75% I’m talking here, do it! You will be amazed!
as much as some people don't want to let them go, getting rid of op pets is stage one (solves the stealing issue,)
stage two is balancing with new buffed spells to re add the attraction to the class, multi strike and thunder storm get my vote, make Lightning damage great again.
I will add, to all the wizzies out there complaining, how many of you have made a kit with light damage runes and tested it out? 75% I’m talking here, do it! You will be amazed!
Get rid of OP pets all day long if you want just make it viable for wizards with basic gear to be able to achieve the basic things other classes can do! With similar gear, or at least make the greatest tool available to them (no matter how difficult it is to achieve) not under threat to be taken away in an actual second directly after you've spent weeks or months getting to that point, it's an absolute insult! I'm fine if it takes me weeks or months to get something special, but don't agree that someone can take it away from me in an instant without putting any effort in at all. I don't care what the solution is, I feel strongly that something has to change, and clearly others do and clearly the evidence supports it. At the moment I'm another wizard who has simply stopped playing, and I won't play again unless something changes. I would like to highlight that the nurture the spell is advertised as being able to tame pets for more than 60 minutes at level 3, how long has this been advertised? Why hasn't that been fixed and why has nobody kicked off about it? It's no surprise wizards get fed up.
And I learnt the game just fine pal, the vast majority of people in this convo agree and evidence has been more than presented. If you've had to suffer these issues for too long without speaking out than I'm sorry :-(.
And I learnt the game just fine pal, the vast majority of people in this convo agree and evidence has been more than presented. If you've had to suffer these issues for too long without speaking out than I'm sorry :-(.
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