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[zad48231]

If that still happens even ur in a different PVE one, maybe in the past that something u did, ur being stickied as a target. Nothing i can do about it. Try to be nice or have a chat with that fella maybe.

That's simply not possible. These animals will pk anyone and everyone, including high levels and low levels, pvp guilds and pve guilds. They don't care. They pk people who have never been off peace mode or said a single negative word in their entire time in the game. They just want to pk everyone and they are not open to any kind of conversation about it. Being "nice" is not a concept they have any understanding of. To suggest otherwise is extremely naive of you and highlights how out of touch you are around this issue

I'm posting by experience myself, having bulldozed by your leaders/crews when i was lvling during event made my choice up

What would you suggest they do? Just leave you alone? You made the choice to join a guild where you will be #1 enemy of the "good" people of the server, then you act surprised that people can see the target you painted on your own face?

who wouldn't wish for a healthy game?

Your guild leaders don't wish for a healthy game. They've made it very clear that they want to be the only people on the server, everyone else should join them and kiss their feet, or just quit. That is not an attitude that is compatible with a healthy game. They need to change that attitude very quickly or they will soon find that they have their wish and get to rule an empty server

 

[JnavI]

That's simply not possible. These animals will pk anyone and everyone, including high levels and low levels, pvp guilds and pve guilds. They don't care. They pk people who have never been off peace mode or said a single negative word in their entire time in the game. They just want to pk everyone and they are not open to any kind of conversation about it. Being "nice" is not a concept they have any understanding of. To suggest otherwise is extremely naive of you and highlights how out of touch you are around this issue

What would you suggest they do? Just leave you alone? You made the choice to join a guild where you will be #1 enemy of the "good" people of the server, then you act surprised that people can see the target you painted on your own face?

Your guild leaders don't wish for a healthy game. They've made it very clear that they want to be the only people on the server, everyone else should join them and kiss their feet, or just quit. That is not an attitude that is compatible with a healthy game. They need to change that attitude very quickly or they will soon find that they have their wish and get to rule an empty server

How long u been playing? I guess u know that is allowed, there're places which is non-drop or can rt, figure it out. The ppl being pk'd didn't come here nagging, just few of u lots. Replying to ur 2nd paragraph, reflect on ur own question, what u suggest we do? Leave u alone? I made a choice yeah, so did u lot. Nothing to cry about here.
Your 3rd paragraph, no1 is kissing any1's feet here this alliance happened because the choices u made & merging into it.
TBH ur 2nd reply just sums everything up, just ur the opposite side of the team. TQ.

 

[zad48231]

How long u been playing? I guess u know that is allowed, there're places which is non-drop or can rt, figure it out. The ppl being pk'd didn't come here nagging, just few of u lots. Replying to ur 2nd paragraph, reflect on ur own question, what u suggest we do? Leave u alone? I made a choice yeah, so did u lot. Nothing to cry about here.
Your 3rd paragraph, no1 is kissing any1's feet here this alliance happened because the choices u made & merging into it.
TBH ur 2nd reply just sums everything up, just ur the opposite side of the team. TQ.

Do you even hear yourself?

How many innocent noobs do I pk? What choice did I make? I just want to hunt in peace like many others but you decide that's not allowed. If I TT every time I see someone in your guild there's no point playing because that's every time I leave sz I see you lot. So I have option to fight back or just quit. Guess quit is the option then since if I fight back in your eyes that makes me the one to blame.

And yes, most of the people you pk and bully don't come here complaining, they just quit and play something else. A few of us stand up to you and instead of realising you're ruining the server you try to gaslight us into thinking we're the ones to blame

So hypocritical of you it's embarrassing

 

[dote]

I'm posting by experience myself, having bulldozed by your leaders/crews when i was lvling during event made my choice up. I don't go forum crying about it. When its payback time u lot come here crying about being pk'd back. To those that had provoke/will join to provoke, they're listing themselves a target that is all. As for the others that contantly pk u, i hope it comes to ur sense that u are in the wrong guild, a pking/warring one. If that still happens even ur in a different PVE one, maybe in the past that something u did, ur being stickied as a target. Nothing i can do about it. Try to be nice or have a chat with that fella maybe.

And i was replying to pookies's post, u came and replied to my post and felt annoyed. I don't even know who u are in game. Yes who wouldn't wish for a healthy game? Just that what your guild did we just came back stronger and doing it back. I 100% guarantee this is what you lot would exactly do had the tables turned around today. You have ppl like sharkboy in there constantly asking for a 1v1 and loves pking, i have to turn down every time because he wouldn't fight without his bound gear. Yesterday we encountered sixo, full bound too, just a waste of time. Maybe u can start using bound kits.

It appears I did you a disservice. I thought I may be discoursing with someone who, although not on the same side, would at least see a bigger picture.

Your use of words like 'crying' 'payback' 'you lot' and an example naming fish (sharkboy) show me EXACTLY what kind of a player you are.

You carry on with your own little vendetta buddy.

 

[JnavI]

It appears I did you a disservice. I thought I may be discoursing with someone who, although not on the same side, would at least see a bigger picture.

Your use of words like 'crying' 'payback' 'you lot' and an example naming fish (sharkboy) show me EXACTLY what kind of a player you are.

You carry on with your own little vendetta buddy.

Nothing you say changes my opinion, because i am in game to experience it myself. You just cannot accept the fact u are in a warring guild, and u expect the opposite side to spare u. Seems from ur perspective i cannot retaliate when being attacked? When i do so it show what kind of player i am? Seems like u are confused or in a rage i advice u to relax and think this is just a game.

What words i have used or naming individuals has nothing to do with what type of player i am because the fact is both rival guilds pk each other and, i've spared few from ur side when they bossing/lvl just ask them, i'm just talking facts here.
I have limited knowledge on grammar i use what can be understood by most, apologize if this is a test and ur giving me marks.

 

[JnavI]

Do you even hear yourself?

How many innocent noobs do I pk? What choice did I make? I just want to hunt in peace like many others but you decide that's not allowed. If I TT every time I see someone in your guild there's no point playing because that's every time I leave sz I see you lot. So I have option to fight back or just quit. Guess quit is the option then since if I fight back in your eyes that makes me the one to blame.

And yes, most of the people you pk and bully don't come here complaining, they just quit and play something else. A few of us stand up to you and instead of realising you're ruining the server you try to gaslight us into thinking we're the ones to blame

So hypocritical of you it's embarrassing

I'm so sorry let me tell u something, maybe in the earlier phase u should have distanced urself from a guild that wars. But no, u joined em. Now you've been marked thats not called bullying, just a game thing. Nothing hypocritical of me just some bad choices u made and i am just explaining.

 

[zad48231]

I'm so sorry let me tell u something, maybe in the earlier phase u should have distanced urself from a guild that wars. But no, u joined em. Now you've been marked thats not called bullying, just a game thing. Nothing hypocritical of me just some bad choices u made and i am just explaining.

War and randomly pking noobs are very different things. Castle war is competitive and consensual and can be fun in the right circumstances. Do not consider that to be in any way related to indiscriminate pking of noobs.

I've never pkd random noobs, I only attack first in the field if its someone I believe will attack me first if I don't. And I've not been in imms for ages yet you all still attack me, because you pretend the guild is anything to do with it and use it as an excuse, but the reality that we can all see through is that your guild just wants to pk anyone and everyone at every opportunity because it makes you feel big

 

[Snugglebear]

War and randomly pking noobs are very different things. Castle war is competitive and consensual and can be fun in the right circumstances. Do not consider that to be in any way related to indiscriminate pking of noobs.

I've never pkd random noobs, I only attack first in the field if its someone I believe will attack me first if I don't. And I've not been in imms for ages yet you all still attack me, because you pretend the guild is anything to do with it and use it as an excuse, but the reality that we can all see through is that your guild just wants to pk anyone and everyone at every opportunity because it makes you feel big

No matter what guild your in these scum will attack you. His excuses are funny. Im in a PVE guild, not even high level with a decent kit but i get attacked and when i asked why i got told i can drop a tele Never been attacked by an Imms member either, just saying. Noto + legacy are the problem 100%.

 

[dote]

Nothing you say changes my opinion, because i am in game to experience it myself. You just cannot accept the fact u are in a warring guild, and u expect the opposite side to spare u. Seems from ur perspective i cannot retaliate when being attacked? When i do so it show what kind of player i am? Seems like u are confused or in a rage i advice u to relax and think this is just a game.

What words i have used or naming individuals has nothing to do with what type of player i am because the fact is both rival guilds pk each other and, i've spared few from ur side when they bossing/lvl just ask them, i'm just talking facts here.
I have limited knowledge on grammar i use what can be understood by most, apologize if this is a test and ur giving me marks.

Nothing you say changes my opinion, because i am in game to experience it myself.

No problem with you playing your own game. I play mine. But eventually, our paths intersect. This can be positive or it can be negative. I know which I choose, what do you?

You just cannot accept the fact u are in a warring guild,

What is with this 'accept you are in a warring guild' nonsense? Of course I accept I am in Imms, I said so, didn't I? Some of Imms play very differently to me. Does everyone in Noto / Legacy / WC play the same? Of course you don't. So, do I view all of you the same? Of course I don't. And yet, you are happy to attack me as I am Imms - this being the one and only criteria you feel relevant.

I have pointed put on another thread that if I were to leave Imms some of your side would still attack me. It would be very naïve to believe otherwise. It is disingenuous in the extreme to suggest otherwise (as you seek to do) that membership of Imms is justification in itself.

and u expect the opposite side to spare u.

I will go to wars, I have never PK'd a noob. I wouldn't dream of blocking content and I thought the blocking of the event NPC was pathetic. I will also, unless very outnumbered (or subject to a game mechanic disadvantage that other 'I love PK' players are only too happy to utilise) fight back when attacked so your use of the words 'spare u' are actually quite insulting. Like I need to beg for a concession, for your mercy. Never gonna happen mate.

You really don't get me in the slightest with your comment;

Seems from ur perspective i cannot retaliate when being attacked?

100% I support people fighting back when attacked. Even better when those people win. My Dad taught me 'never start it, always finish it'. A lesson I feel that would fall on deaf ears around here.

Seems like u are confused or in a rage

Rage? Me? Jeeze, as above, you don't get me in the slightest. Yes I am slightly miffed enough to summon up the energy to type a reply, but rage? No buddy, no rage. Slight sadness is probably more apt.

What words i have used or naming individuals has nothing to do with what type of player i am

100% the words you choose reflect who you are / how you play. If the words you choose are not designed to provoke ('cry', 'you lot' etc. etc.) or condescend ('confused', 'spare u', 'rage' 'relax') what is their intent?

It wasn't the naming of a player, it was who you chose as your example. Fish is well known for being a bit of a prick. He would probably say so himself. Yes, I know I did the same thing when I dropped the name Vic. In my defence, all I was trying to put across was how some of the more, lets say 'extreme' players do things that are not in this games interests, pk'ing PvE players for one. However, I appreciate 'Vic' et al is not the entirety of Noto / Legacy / WC just as fish is not the entirety of Imms.

I say not all players are the same. We don't all play the same. Some people are decent. Some people are not. Of those that are not, some will have moved on. Using past wrongs to define the future is somewhat petty?

At a time when you and (to use your words) 'you lot' very much have the upper hand, some of your more 'dubious' tactics are no longer necessary. I ask that you think beyond your petty tribalism and do your bit to ensure this server has a future.

But, of course, you are perfectly entitled to ignore me. Crack on. Fill your boots.

Never once have I criticised you for your language skills so no need for the sly dig regarding 'apologise if you are giving me marks'.

 

[JnavI]

War and randomly pking noobs are very different things. Castle war is competitive and consensual and can be fun in the right circumstances. Do not consider that to be in any way related to indiscriminate pking of noobs.

I've never pkd random noobs, I only attack first in the field if its someone I believe will attack me first if I don't. And I've not been in imms for ages yet you all still attack me, because you pretend the guild is anything to do with it and use it as an excuse, but the reality that we can all see through is that your guild just wants to pk anyone and everyone at every opportunity because it makes you feel big

It's because you don't just become someone else overnight, all just because u have left that guild? It's like u joined a gang and robbed someone, then after some time u left the gang coz u don't feel like its ur thing to do and expect the police or rivals to forget about u. Don't think it works that way, you have been marked nevertheless.

Can't believe we're still debating about pk, all because u wanted to turn over a new leaf and expect to be forgotten, then wanting to change the pk system which is fine over all these years and accusing of "indiscriminate pking of noobs" or "bullying". Do something maybe, speak up, private message those ppl saying that u are no longer interested in pking and ur laying ur arms down and no longer affiliate with any PK guild and hope to be left alone, hope that works for ya.

 

[JnavI]

No problem with you playing your own game. I play mine. But eventually, our paths intersect. This can be positive or it can be negative. I know which I choose, what do you?


What is with this 'accept you are in a warring guild' nonsense? Of course I accept I am in Imms, I said so, didn't I? Some of Imms play very differently to me. Does everyone in Noto / Legacy / WC play the same? Of course you don't. So, do I view all of you the same? Of course I don't. And yet, you are happy to attack me as I am Imms - this being the one and only criteria you feel relevant.

I have pointed put on another thread that if I were to leave Imms some of your side would still attack me. It would be very naïve to believe otherwise. It is disingenuous in the extreme to suggest otherwise (as you seek to do) that membership of Imms is justification in itself.


I will go to wars, I have never PK'd a noob. I wouldn't dream of blocking content and I thought the blocking of the event NPC was pathetic. I will also, unless very outnumbered (or subject to a game mechanic disadvantage that other 'I love PK' players are only too happy to utilise) fight back when attacked so your use of the words 'spare u' are actually quite insulting. Like I need to beg for a concession, for your mercy. Never gonna happen mate.

You really don't get me in the slightest with your comment;

100% I support people fighting back when attacked. Even better when those people win. My Dad taught me 'never start it, always finish it'. A lesson I feel that would fall on deaf ears around here.


Rage? Me? Jeeze, as above, you don't get me in the slightest. Yes I am slightly miffed enough to summon up the energy to type a reply, but rage? No buddy, no rage. Slight sadness is probably more apt.


100% the words you choose reflect who you are / how you play. If the words you choose are not designed to provoke ('cry', 'you lot' etc. etc.) or condescend ('confused', 'spare u', 'rage' 'relax') what is their intent?

It wasn't the naming of a player, it was who you chose as your example. Fish is well known for being a bit of a prick. He would probably say so himself. Yes, I know I did the same thing when I dropped the name Vic. In my defence, all I was trying to put across was how some of the more, lets say 'extreme' players do things that are not in this games interests, pk'ing PvE players for one. However, I appreciate 'Vic' et al is not the entirety of Noto / Legacy / WC just as fish is not the entirety of Imms.

I say not all players are the same. We don't all play the same. Some people are decent. Some people are not. Of those that are not, some will have moved on. Using past wrongs to define the future is somewhat petty?

At a time when you and (to use your words) 'you lot' very much have the upper hand, some of your more 'dubious' tactics are no longer necessary. I ask that you think beyond your petty tribalism and do your bit to ensure this server has a future.

But, of course, you are perfectly entitled to ignore me. Crack on. Fill your boots.

Never once have I criticised you for your language skills so no need for the sly dig regarding 'apologise if you are giving me marks'.

Thanks for accepting we play our game u play urs and how the server allows it to, and we're doing just what ur dad adviced. Also a huge relief you noticed u are in a war/pk guild. U are not an ally, u get pk'd. I guess u get it crystal clear now.
I also think you have ur own category of words to ur liking, and u don't like ('cry', 'you lot' etc. etc.) or condescend ('confused', 'spare u', 'rage' 'relax'). Don't stress me out for not using the words to ur liking.

XD

 

[zad48231]

It's because you don't just become someone else overnight, all just because u have left that guild? It's like u joined a gang and robbed someone, then after some time u left the gang coz u don't feel like its ur thing to do and expect the police or rivals to forget about u. Don't think it works that way, you have been marked nevertheless.

Can't believe we're still debating about pk, all because u wanted to turn over a new leaf and expect to be forgotten, then wanting to change the pk system which is fine over all these years and accusing of "indiscriminate pking of noobs" or "bullying". Do something maybe, speak up, private message those ppl saying that u are no longer interested in pking and ur laying ur arms down and no longer affiliate with any PK guild and hope to be left alone, hope that works for ya.

Are you even for real? You think of yourself as the police now?

I'm not "turning a new leaf". I've never changed and will not change. I don't indiscriminately pk noobs like your guild does. You folks are the problem, not me.

People attacked me before I was in imms, they attacked me when I was in peaceful guilds, when I was low level I got attacked by these people, and now they still do it to people of all levels. Stop pretending it's some kind of "rivalry" it's just assholes and their ass-lickers vs the people who want to stand up against them. You've clearly decided which one you want to be. Me, I just want to play the game without bullshit from people who are determined to ruin the fun for everyone.

 

[Mrmyagi]

Who had to bring 4 different guilds to war to win castles against 1 guild?

guild v guild Immortals smashed you easy. #justsaying

Loooool ain’t it ironic you are now saying about bringing this many guilds to war I’m sorry but what was you lot response to noto when it was you guys with more guilds attending war ?. Tbh you guys can try twist all you want say there ruining the server etc but all I rly see is you guys being sour first you was coming with the cheating accusations . Now they ruined war because they have more ally’s attending .

 

[dote]

and we're doing just what ur dad adviced

Wow. You have managed to take a comment that is as far removed from bullying behaviour as it is possible to get and have applied it to people who exhibit as many bullying traits as it is possible to do.

That really is some weapons grade bullshit you are trying to deploy there, my friend.

 

[JnavI]

Are you even for real? You think of yourself as the police now?

I'm not "turning a new leaf". I've never changed and will not change. I don't indiscriminately pk noobs like your guild does. You folks are the problem, not me.

People attacked me before I was in imms, they attacked me when I was in peaceful guilds, when I was low level I got attacked by these people, and now they still do it to people of all levels. Stop pretending it's some kind of "rivalry" it's just assholes and their ass-lickers vs the people who want to stand up against them. You've clearly decided which one you want to be. Me, I just want to play the game without bullshit from people who are determined to ruin the fun for everyone.

Am i for real? I think I'm a policeman? LOL. Of course i am not. It's a metaphor of what will happen if u associate with bandits. Because u have a hard time understanding ur situation.
FYI It's not that i suddenly decided to be ur opponent, I have fought that guild since 5startao time, we had fun we chat as friends, but when we see each other we pk. No such thing as crying at forums being bullied or things like that. You could have just stick to doing what u were doing before associating with PK guilds, there are consequences.

Am i using the right words? I'm worried dote might highlight what words deemed offensive to him. There goes my english test marks again. =(

 

[JnavI]

Wow. You have managed to take a comment that is as far removed from bullying behaviour as it is possible to get and have applied it to people who exhibit as many bullying traits as it is possible to do.

That really is some weapons grade bullshit you are trying to deploy there, my friend.

I really don't understand what u are typing.
Reading ur past post makes me nauseous. Maybe just stay in no-drop zones if u are so against PK. Scorp designed such places specially for ppl like u. You're like 1 of those vegan forcing others to stop eating meat, because u don't enjoy eating meat. Maybe follow ur own advice, set up ur own MIR server and make it PK free.

Source: https://www.thelegendofmir.com/forum/threads/war-changes-urgently-need-revamp.46759/page-2

"My suggestion to you regarding your own server reflected what you state you want - to own the server top to bottom, for it to be totally by your rules. Having your own server would allow you to achieve this, if this were your true aim." - Dote

"Honestly mate, I have nothing against pvp. I don't like it, but I accept it. It is what it is. However, pvp has been broken for a long, long time. It is not a fair, fluid or advanced element of the gameplay. It is awkward. (Unusual for a game that has a pvp element but it betrays its age). Pvp also favours the hawks and not the doves, but I would suspect GM is already aware of this, hence pve zones." - Dote

Thank u, but PVP ain't broken, it just doesn't benefit u, now stop stirring shit up.

 

[dote]

I really don't understand what u are typing.
Reading ur past post makes me nauseous. Maybe just stay in no-drop zones if u are so against PK. Scorp designed such places specially for ppl like u. You're like 1 of those vegan forcing others to stop eating meat, because u don't enjoy eating meat. Maybe follow ur own advice, set up ur own MIR server and make it PK free.

Source: https://www.thelegendofmir.com/forum/threads/war-changes-urgently-need-revamp.46759/page-2

"My suggestion to you regarding your own server reflected what you state you want - to own the server top to bottom, for it to be totally by your rules. Having your own server would allow you to achieve this, if this were your true aim." - Dote

"Honestly mate, I have nothing against pvp. I don't like it, but I accept it. It is what it is. However, pvp has been broken for a long, long time. It is not a fair, fluid or advanced element of the gameplay. It is awkward. (Unusual for a game that has a pvp element but it betrays its age). Pvp also favours the hawks and not the doves, but I would suspect GM is already aware of this, hence pve zones." - Dote

Thank u, but PVP ain't broken, it just doesn't benefit u, now stop stirring shit up.

Well, that didn't take long for the mask to slip and for the personal abuse to start, eh?

Congratulations. A continuation of a well worn 'method' by you and your type.

You cant even have a discussion without trying to belittle and intimidate, much in the same way you play the game.

As a point of order, if I were trying to 'stir shit up' I would be changing my argument to get an emotional response, but as you can see, I have been consistent throughout.

However, we are clearly done here.

“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.”

 

[zad48231]

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Am i for real? I think I'm a policeman? LOL. Of course i am not. It's a metaphor of what will happen if u associate with bandits. Because u have a hard time understanding ur situation.
FYI It's not that i suddenly decided to be ur opponent, I have fought that guild since 5startao time, we had fun we chat as friends, but when we see each other we pk. No such thing as crying at forums being bullied or things like that. You could have just stick to doing what u were doing before associating with PK guilds, there are consequences.

Am i using the right words? I'm worried dote might highlight what words deemed offensive to him. There goes my english test marks again. =(

So what you're saying is if someone associates with a pk guild that's them a target forever regardless of anything else. Elysian associates with Vic and he is pk so all elysian should be targeted by everyone? Understood

 

[JnavI]

Well, that didn't take long for the mask to slip and for the personal abuse to start, eh?

Congratulations. A continuation of a well worn 'method' by you and your type.

You cant even have a discussion without trying to belittle and intimidate, much in the same way you play the game.

As a point of order, if I were trying to 'stir shit up' I would be changing my argument to get an emotional response, but as you can see, I have been consistent throughout.

However, we are clearly done here.

“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.”

Where's the abuse? First u concluded how someone is just by their choice of words used on a gaming forum, lol. Second like i've said i replied to pookies u have to be butthurt and drag this until now. You're the one started ain't it? I think u have issues now it's scary.

Finally you've clearly admitted u accept pvp don't u, there's only 1 dote here and that very post is made by u, so no issues here, next..

 

[JnavI]

So what you're saying is if someone associates with a pk guild that's them a target forever regardless of anything else. Elysian associates with Vic and he is pk so all elysian should be targeted by everyone? Understood

Elysian is an allied guild (where noob levels) associates with Noto Legacy, u can try to target them its a pk server