New cave, cap rise announcement

[CSpaceCowboy]

I've said it before ill say it again. Pk in kings rooms only.

All other floors are safe zones.

Would solve a lot of these problems.

I also like the idea of karma being implemented as an anti pk measure. I mean that's what karma is. Be good be rewarded, pk and don't get the benefits.

I wouldn't take souls away or anything like that, but buff those with high karma with better drops, better crafting, "maybe" better xp.

I like those idea, and it also helps the really crappy drop situation in the end. Maybe.

 

[dote]

i'm sorry i don't really understand u, during easter event, u & crew didnt think twice to attack us in caves & others, when i've already said we pk after event with full gear/buff, so now event is over, turns out ur being hunted and singing a different tune now, make up ur mind

u want it, u've got it

Absolute bs. I am in imms, I don't pk. Didn't stop many (not all) of noto and legacy members attacking me on sight. I didn't want it, I didn't ask for it, I still got it.

Your later post betrays you, your whole attitude is 'I will do what I like' if you don't like it rt or tt (conveniently forgetting that some places you couldn't rt in).

Sums up (yet again) what's gone wrong with the game and how your myopia will be the end of this server.

 

[CSpaceCowboy]

Also. I would like it if @Scorpian could make people yellow or red for stealing wizzie pets.

Or just block stealing pets entirely unless you're grouped with said player.

 

[zad48231]

Also. I would like it if @Scorpian could make people yellow or red for stealing wizzie pets.

Or just block stealing pets entirely unless you're grouped with said player.

I'd say pets really need to be less relied upon tbh. As it is, if you don't have pets you're useless. I don't even bother with wiz now because my entire attention is spent trying to keep the bastard things alive. Anyone can come and steal them or kill them or they can wander off and boom that's game over until I go back to RDD or BDP. I'd prefer to be able to hunt effectively without them and have pets be just a slight convenience rather than make or break

#MakeWizGreatAgain

 

[Mustafa13]

I've said it before ill say it again. Pk in kings rooms only.

All other floors are safe zones.

Would solve a lot of these problems.

I also like the idea of karma being implemented as an anti pk measure. I mean that's what karma is. Be good be rewarded, pk and don't get the benefits.

I wouldn't take souls away or anything like that, but buff those with high karma with better drops, better crafting, "maybe" better xp.

I like those idea, and it also helps the really crappy drop situation in the end. Maybe.

Nah, wouldn't be mir 2 then, im not even a pvp player but if something like that happened id just quit honestly.
Pk is a part of the game you have to accept that, however I am in favor of adding Karma onto the game big fan of that idea my even my IGN is DragonKarma lol

 

[CSpaceCowboy]

I agree pk is a part of the game and I full understand where youre coming from, but until the high level pking low level players is addressed, there has to be a stop gap to make them think twice to pking lower level players. At the moment there's no downside to just pking lower levels at iku/loki/etc...

 

[Mustafa13]

I agree pk is a part of the game and I full understand where youre coming from, but until the high level pking low level players is addressed, there has to be a stop gap to make them think twice to pking lower level players. At the moment there's no downside to just pking lower levels at iku/loki/etc...

Skull island should fix this, fingers crossed gm brings it back. Levelling 100-150 is too much of a grind and nearly impossible solo without spending gamegold or getting helped, another mechanic that needs to be mentioned is that if a 190 decides to go boost a lvl 140 it wont work because the 140 will be getting 2-3k exp per mob the same as the 190 which is quite disappointing this means that you can only level with people around your level range but truth be told there aren't many new players that are low lvl in game atm so how is one meant to find a partner or a group to level with. Skull island would solve everything imo

 

[JnavI]

Absolute bs. I am in imms, I don't pk. Didn't stop many (not all) of noto and legacy members attacking me on sight. I didn't want it, I didn't ask for it, I still got it.

Your later post betrays you, your whole attitude is 'I will do what I like' if you don't like it rt or tt (conveniently forgetting that some places you couldn't rt in).

Sums up (yet again) what's gone wrong with the game and how your myopia will be the end of this server.

Oh you are in imms (a pk guild), but u don't pk, doesn't sum up, the guild name itself is enough to attract rivals to pk, its obvious they don't care if u pk or not
maybe if it was me and ur lower lvl, or if asked to be left alone, i would, ask few of ur members kalista oldblackwolf etc
Just get on with the fact the server needs pk. The new beginners/new guild members need to be made aware some maps are not rt'able, instead of punishing pkers for playing the game.

 

[CSpaceCowboy]

I'm not jumping into the guild debate here as I have no affiliation with any guilds that pk.

But level 170+players pking and boss stealing from low level players at iku, loki, and the likes is what's wrong with this server to be honest.

All you do is drive new players out of the game.

A.) There needs to be some form of pk protections based on level disparity.

B.) Those high level players having to kill, steal, or pk at those bosses just points to a deeper problem related to drops to be honest.

Bringing back noob Island event permanently would fix "some" of these issues, while also bringing new players into the game. New players that are DESPERATELY needed. I don't know if the rest of you have noticed but the AH is dead as a doornail. Nothing is selling. I personally won't be buying GG anymore until changes are made. Nor is anyone in my guilds for that matter. Most of my members have cut back play time dramatically because there's zero incentive to play. We do hunts daily and drops are....lacking. I'm sorry but when 7 people spend 2 hours in a hunt and come out with 3 items total, none of them useful, something is...yea. I'm done ranting. I've beat this horse to death and we'll just have to wait and see. Changes need to be made to keep new players. New players are needed.

 

[Gritt]

I'm not jumping into the guild debate here as I have no affiliation with any guilds that pk.

But level 170+players pking and boss stealing from low level players at iku, loki, and the likes is what's wrong with this server to be honest.

All you do is drive new players out of the game.

A.) There needs to be some form of pk protections based on level disparity.

B.) Those high level players having to kill, steal, or pk at those bosses just points to a deeper problem related to drops to be honest.

Bringing back noob Island event permanently would fix "some" of these issues, while also bringing new players into the game. New players that are DESPERATELY needed. I don't know if the rest of you have noticed but the AH is dead as a doornail. Nothing is selling. I personally won't be buying GG anymore until changes are made. Nor is anyone in my guilds for that matter. Most of my members have cut back play time dramatically because there's zero incentive to play. We do hunts daily and drops are....lacking. I'm sorry but when 7 people spend 2 hours in a hunt and come out with 3 items total, none of them useful, something is...yea. I'm done ranting. I've beat this horse to death and we'll just have to wait and see. Changes need to be made to keep new players. New players are needed.

You got it spot on here , I too have tried to ge new players or older 1s to return but without some radical changes its almost impossible to get them to stay .
What i think may be a good solution is thus
Skull Island full time lvl 1-150 with big buffs etc
Skull Island 2 150-170 less buffs but more mobs and quests for gear returns grouping requred for some things , Play as a Team aspects.....
Skull Island 2 can be enetered anytime if your say 150-169 thus giving you aspects of guild play etc but if you just want to grind out levels thats the place to go ......
I think after 170 maybe a small xp buff until 180 as after 180 there plenty of exp content to satisfy the grinders.....

 

[zad48231]

Oh you are in imms (a pk guild), but u don't pk, doesn't sum up, the guild name itself is enough to attract rivals to pk, its obvious they don't care if u pk or not
maybe if it was me and ur lower lvl, or if asked to be left alone, i would, ask few of ur members kalista oldblackwolf etc
Just get on with the fact the server needs pk. The new beginners/new guild members need to be made aware some maps are not rt'able, instead of punishing pkers for playing the game.

Theres plenty people who want to pve and don't actually like noto or legacy but join them because that's the only way they can be left alone and they feel they have no choice

Tell me more about how you aren't a bully guild

 

[zad48231]

You got it spot on here , I too have tried to ge new players or older 1s to return but without some radical changes its almost impossible to get them to stay .
What i think may be a good solution is thus
Skull Island full time lvl 1-150 with big buffs etc
Skull Island 2 150-170 less buffs but more mobs and quests for gear returns grouping requred for some things , Play as a Team aspects.....
Skull Island 2 can be enetered anytime if your say 150-169 thus giving you aspects of guild play etc but if you just want to grind out levels thats the place to go ......
I think after 170 maybe a small xp buff until 180 as after 180 there plenty of exp content to satisfy the grinders.....

Thats basically what the 'demon souls' caves were designed to be. There's plenty of them, maybe they need some tweaks such as increased drops and level caps on entry

 

[Mustafa13]

You got it spot on here , I too have tried to ge new players or older 1s to return but without some radical changes its almost impossible to get them to stay .
What i think may be a good solution is thus
Skull Island full time lvl 1-150 with big buffs etc
Skull Island 2 150-170 less buffs but more mobs and quests for gear returns grouping requred for some things , Play as a Team aspects.....
Skull Island 2 can be enetered anytime if your say 150-169 thus giving you aspects of guild play etc but if you just want to grind out levels thats the place to go ......
I think after 170 maybe a small xp buff until 180 as after 180 there plenty of exp content to satisfy the grinders.....

good idea, there is a poll on the forums about skull island i suggest you go vote on that

 

[JnavI]

Theres plenty people who want to pve and don't actually like noto or legacy but join them because that's the only way they can be left alone and they feel they have no choice

Tell me more about how you aren't a bully guild

They have a choice, hence they joined. It will be the same with the opponent guild if they are as powerful. They flock into it. It is a game thing. Nothing about being a bully.

 

[Mrmyagi]

Think you've killed the server enough don't you? What a stupid idea. Haven't played in the past week, log on yesterday and go hunt with 3 others to be hunted down every cave just so you could pk so end up in planes. Its a joke. Need more SZ caves and guild caves not less.
And to drop bound items at war, there would need to be a war? But the 1 guild that went to war is no longer going to war because you've well and truly killed that to so well done

You being serious ? How arrogant are you to be like this . It’s this simple you guys don’t like the fact your heavily outnumbered and keep losing all the time that’s all it comes down to legit you say about not being able to hunt anywhere ? You guys recall for one person for pk but now it’s you lot getting constant pk it’s now a problem ? I get the the lower lvls with demon souls but sorry if your in imms or noto you cannot complain about pk this two guilds are pk guilds hence why they constant war each other if you don’t want pk there’s ove guilds as have been stated numerous times sorry but you lot made your bed and now it’s time to lay in and take it on the chin all this talk about destroying the server it’s sad just to turn people against noto/legacy I agree there’s a very few tht do but most do not. Also saying they kill war ? How because you can’t win a castle atm so they ruined it ? Take it few months back now when imms had all castles you was all laughing telling enemy guild to suck it up and get better it’s a complete joke honestly grow up

 

[zad48231]

They have a choice, hence they joined. It will be the same with the opponent guild if they are as powerful. They flock into it. It is a game thing. Nothing about being a bully.

Take off your rose-tinted glasses mate. You're seeing the 1% of good in them and acting like that's their whole personality while ignoring the other 99%. They are bully guilds who will pk anyone and everyone and will stop at nothing to make themselves feel big. Several people have told me they didn't want to join those guilds but did because they had no other option, as being in other guilds including pve guilds they felt like they couldn't hunt anywhere or get any bosses because of constant harassment. That is bully tactics no matter what way you dress it up.

 

[Snugglebear]

You being serious ? How arrogant are you to be like this . It’s this simple you guys don’t like the fact your heavily outnumbered and keep losing all the time that’s all it comes down to legit you say about not being able to hunt anywhere ? You guys recall for one person for pk but now it’s you lot getting constant pk it’s now a problem ? I get the the lower lvls with demon souls but sorry if your in imms or noto you cannot complain about pk this two guilds are pk guilds hence why they constant war each other if you don’t want pk there’s ove guilds as have been stated numerous times sorry but you lot made your bed and now it’s time to lay in and take it on the chin all this talk about destroying the server it’s sad just to turn people against noto/legacy I agree there’s a very few tht do but most do not. Also saying they kill war ? How because you can’t win a castle atm so they ruined it ? Take it few months back now when imms had all castles you was all laughing telling enemy guild to suck it up and get better it’s a complete joke honestly grow up

Who had to bring 4 different guilds to war to win castles against 1 guild?

guild v guild Immortals smashed you easy. #justsaying

 

[dote]

Oh you are in imms (a pk guild), but u don't pk, doesn't sum up, the guild name itself is enough to attract rivals to pk, its obvious they don't care if u pk or not
maybe if it was me and ur lower lvl, or if asked to be left alone, i would, ask few of ur members kalista oldblackwolf etc
Just get on with the fact the server needs pk. The new beginners/new guild members need to be made aware some maps are not rt'able, instead of punishing pkers for playing the game.

I was replying to your antagonistic comment 'u want it, u've got it'.

That's not the comment of someone who can be reasoned with, I am afraid. From that comment I wouldn't dream of 'asking to be left alone' I know fore well I would just be a body on the ground before I had hit the enter key.

Nope, not lower level but hopelessly out kitted by those with either the 'passion' to camp every boss going or deep pockets for gg. I have played for donkeys - everyone I have ever encountered in game knows that I don't attack first, yet there are those in noto / legacy / wildcard who will always attack like rabid dogs.

You say server 'needs pk'. I say it doesn't need pk every single time. Sometimes it might be in your interest to make sure you have a healthy opposition or that a player, clearly just there to clear large amounts of mobs will, in fact, generate more mobs, more red, more blues, more opportunity to sell an item to (or buy a decent item from) and that it is in your own interests that they be left to it rather than forcing them to rt, tt or leave the game.

Until you have experienced just how destructive and vindictive some players are you really haven't seen this game at its worse. RT'ing around just to try to follow a player to pk them being a pretty good example of pretty shitty behaviour. Then they justify such behaviour 'I love PK'.

It really depends upon what you want, I suppose I am trying to say. Do you want to enjoy wars, have a healthy, thriving auction house and a high player count of actively engaged players or do you want a dead server all to yourself? God knows, a game this old is going to need all the help and support from the player base that it can get.

I suspect you actually are that type of player who would wish for a healthy game rather than one who is purely destructive and vindictive, but, in a forum, I can only go by what you post.

 

[dote]

You being serious ? How arrogant are you to be like this . It’s this simple you guys don’t like the fact your heavily outnumbered and keep losing all the time that’s all it comes down to legit you say about not being able to hunt anywhere ? You guys recall for one person for pk but now it’s you lot getting constant pk it’s now a problem ? I get the the lower lvls with demon souls but sorry if your in imms or noto you cannot complain about pk this two guilds are pk guilds hence why they constant war each other if you don’t want pk there’s ove guilds as have been stated numerous times sorry but you lot made your bed and now it’s time to lay in and take it on the chin all this talk about destroying the server it’s sad just to turn people against noto/legacy I agree there’s a very few tht do but most do not. Also saying they kill war ? How because you can’t win a castle atm so they ruined it ? Take it few months back now when imms had all castles you was all laughing telling enemy guild to suck it up and get better it’s a complete joke honestly grow up

Hmmmm...

How ironic that you use the word 'arrogant'.

Anyhoo, yes, outnumbered. Yes, not able to take walls anymore. Yes, even the most far flung of hunts 'ruined' by the opposition dropping by, determined to ruin the hunt (with little gain for themselves) but with maximum disruption to an enjoyable couple of hours with like minded gamers.

Are you in any position to guarantee if Imms were to disband and join another guild the members would not be pkd? When people like Vic attack Tao Loaf (potentially one of the most peaceable players in game) how can you make such a comment?

The comments relating to 'suck it up' have been taken out of context. IIRC, the 'opposition' wanted castle war rules changed so they stood a better chance to take a castle back from Imms. Our comments at the time were along the lines of 'stop trying to change the rules, get better'.

The opposition got better. They now hold all the castles.

To the best of my knowledge (happy to be corrected) no member of Imms has now suggested that castle war rules be changed (other than the old perennial argument over drop / no drop / bound kit) to enable us to take castles back?

Is the server better now that Noto, Legacy and Wildcard have dominance over the game? Am I happy that some players who justify stalking other players in the name of 'I love PK', who block game content and who will argue for game changes only in their own self interest (remove safe areas etc) are in these guilds?

Nope.

Seems unfair to me. But, its a game. When I have reached my 'tolerance' for this unfairness I will be off. That is the adult thing to do!

 

[JnavI]

I was replying to your antagonistic comment 'u want it, u've got it'.

That's not the comment of someone who can be reasoned with, I am afraid. From that comment I wouldn't dream of 'asking to be left alone' I know fore well I would just be a body on the ground before I had hit the enter key.

Nope, not lower level but hopelessly out kitted by those with either the 'passion' to camp every boss going or deep pockets for gg. I have played for donkeys - everyone I have ever encountered in game knows that I don't attack first, yet there are those in noto / legacy / wildcard who will always attack like rabid dogs.

You say server 'needs pk'. I say it doesn't need pk every single time. Sometimes it might be in your interest to make sure you have a healthy opposition or that a player, clearly just there to clear large amounts of mobs will, in fact, generate more mobs, more red, more blues, more opportunity to sell an item to (or buy a decent item from) and that it is in your own interests that they be left to it rather than forcing them to rt, tt or leave the game.

Until you have experienced just how destructive and vindictive some players are you really haven't seen this game at its worse. RT'ing around just to try to follow a player to pk them being a pretty good example of pretty shitty behaviour. Then they justify such behaviour 'I love PK'.

It really depends upon what you want, I suppose I am trying to say. Do you want to enjoy wars, have a healthy, thriving auction house and a high player count of actively engaged players or do you want a dead server all to yourself? God knows, a game this old is going to need all the help and support from the player base that it can get.

I suspect you actually are that type of player who would wish for a healthy game rather than one who is purely destructive and vindictive, but, in a forum, I can only go by what you post.

I'm posting by experience myself, having bulldozed by your leaders/crews when i was lvling during event made my choice up. I don't go forum crying about it. When its payback time u lot come here crying about being pk'd back. To those that had provoke/will join to provoke, they're listing themselves a target that is all. As for the others that contantly pk u, i hope it comes to ur sense that u are in the wrong guild, a pking/warring one. If that still happens even ur in a different PVE one, maybe in the past that something u did, ur being stickied as a target. Nothing i can do about it. Try to be nice or have a chat with that fella maybe.

And i was replying to pookies's post, u came and replied to my post and felt annoyed. I don't even know who u are in game. Yes who wouldn't wish for a healthy game? Just that what your guild did we just came back stronger and doing it back. I 100% guarantee this is what you lot would exactly do had the tables turned around today. You have ppl like sharkboy in there constantly asking for a 1v1 and loves pking, i have to turn down every time because he wouldn't fight without his bound gear. Yesterday we encountered sixo, full bound too, just a waste of time. Maybe u can start using bound kits.